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Dr Dunc,
Unfortunately I can only absolutly agree with your assessment, most of our EU woes were wisht upon us by our own Platinium Plating Purely Professional unCivil unServants, based purely upon my 32 years of Local Government reluctant observation and barely credible extrapolation.
mth
 
France pumped a €7 billion rescue package into PSA Peugeot in late 2012/2013. I've no knowledge of how this was squared away with EU rules.

Ten years before that the UK government let the Phoenix group asset strip the remnants of the British car industry, and helped them sell it off to the Chinese.

John Towers, Peter Beale, Nick Stephenson and John Edwards of the Phoenix group were allowed to steel the livelihoods and pensions of thousands of people.

It fills me with disgust just how little the Westminster government values primary production and manufacturing in this country.

Peugeot is a success story that shows how badly British steel, coal, and car workers were regarded.

I seriously hope Westminster will break with their tradition of allowing the sale or closure of British industries, and post Brexit that they emulate France.

Perhaps we need to start rumours in the press that Westminster will be supporting agriculture? :whistle:

British car industry is way stronger than it ever was in the hey day.

Coal, steel, iron, all nonsense. Thatcher saw it coming and merely speeded it up.

You cannot dig coal out of the ground with men down holes as cheaply as someone in Australia can sitting in an air conditioned excavator. Just can't be done.

What remnants of the car industry?
 

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British car industry is way stronger than it ever was in the hey day.

Coal, steel, iron, all nonsense. Thatcher saw it coming and merely speeded it up.

You cannot dig coal out of the ground with men down holes as cheaply as someone in Australia can sitting in an air conditioned excavator. Just can't be done.

What remnants of the car industry?
Sorry this is off topic.

The current "British" car industry is nothing but foreign owned assembly plants.

Spanish and French companies own "British" power suppliers.

The Chinese own "British" Thames water.




Let's start the rumour that Westminster is going to continue to support British agriculture post 2020.

It seems that if enough people shout something in this country, it becomes the truth.
 
Sorry this is off topic.

The current "British" car industry is nothing but foreign owned assembly plants.

Spanish and French companies own "British" power suppliers.

The Chinese own "British" Thames water.




Let's start the rumour that Westminster is going to continue to support British agriculture post 2020.

It seems that if enough people shout something in this country, it becomes the truth.

Err, in the realm of private enterprise did it or does it, ever matter who owns what?

British workers employed? I couldn't care a jot me.

The UK car industry is in better shape today than it ever was being owned by the British government and served only as a whipping boy for the unions. Look at the output and exports now. GM, Ford, Honda, Nissan, Jaguar, Land Rover, Aston Martin, all with extensive UK operations and employing a lot of people producing quality products to meet the demanding needs of international markets.

Did British Leyland ever sell a car in the USA in the same way Range Rovers are making it big over there?

I somehow doubt it.
 
It does and will mean something to you when you realise once the "British" plants stop making money.tne French, Indian owners will soon pull out?... also most profits are taken out of U.K.

And tell me, how does this matter in the realm of private enterprise? The profit is retained by the owners, end of story. Where they choose to base themselves is beyond the scope of mere commerce I would suggest.

What are you going to do, have the state ensure only British people own companies? What exactly makes someone British then? They were born here? They pay tax here? They reside here more than half the time?

What about major corporations listed on the stock exchange? The owners are shareholders, which could be anyone, anywhere?

And if these British or non British companies stop making money, they will fold or be amalgamated, or bought out, nothing government or you or I can do about it. What point are you making exactly?
 

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