Running a wagon as a side line

Kevtherev

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Welshpool Powys
@Cab-over Pete
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threadbare

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Morning, after a change in farming practice (packed up breeding pigs and now rearing them instead) we have spare time on our hands and could do to generate a bit more income. We've looked down the usual lines of buying a bigger tractor for contract work etc but there are plenty of people doing similar.
So we have thought about buying a tractor unit and flat bed/low loader trailer. Dad used to run his own wagon many years ago and we both have a class 1 licence c+e.
In comparison to a tractor and trailer a tractor unit and trailer can be bought quite cheaply. There are some people I could maybe approach for work but I was wondering if anyone else does something similar and if they think there is much work out there and is it worth while?
When we're busy clearing pigs out and pigs in again the wagon would have to be parked up for a week or two so wouldn't want work where we are committed to something every week.
The pigs are our main income and this idea is simply to make use of our free time and generate some extra income.
Any info is much appreciated!

Tom
 

threadbare

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Merry xmas -if its not too early.I don't want to pee on your parade but the reason there's a lot of farm bulker type work available is because its not very profitable
and given a choice nobody wants to do it.I was an o/d for 26 years and early on did grain haulage, having been a farmworker for a number of years.It was during a quiet
spell pre harvest that I realized there was work available where I could get loaded early, where I didn't get rained off,didnt have to sit and wait to tip/load, could backload with anything available and didn't have jobs cancelled at the last minute ie. when just turned in the yard.I have seen it from both sides so I know that's the nature of farming, but it doesn't help when you're trying to make a living as a one man band.
Anyrode up as they say in these parts if that hasn't put you off I wish you all the best. Just bear in mind that if you're carrying other peoples goods you'll need a full Standard National Operators Licence and the Ministry(showing my age now) will take a keen interest in you in the first few months to make sure you are sticking to the pledges you made.As long as you keep your nose clean they are not the ogres that people make them out to be.

You say you have your Class 1 (age thing again) but you'll also need Drivers CPC (expensive but fail proof) And a Digi card if the truck is relatively modern.Applying for an O licence can be a bit longwinded but the only real stumbling block is you or somebody connected to the business must have a Transport managers CPC(not to be confused with the Drivers CPC).It used to be that you could "employ" somebody to keep an eye on things but I think the ministry frown on this.They will send some one to inspect your Operating Centre and to check your maintenance arrangements,and they'll be back a few months later to check all your paper work and to make sure everything is top notch.Bent nails and binder twine will not do.No offence but you know what I mean.
As others have said you dont need a new lorry with all the whistle and bells especially on locals, but it does need to be reliable economical and have a good payload . Whatever you buy its an expensive bit of kit and the standing costs or overheads or whatever you want to call them are considerable .The idea of doing a couple of loads between morning and afternoon milking or feeding,the figures just wouldn't stack up.It really ought to be working to the maximum of the drivers legal hours which is difficult to do on locals which always paid best for me. Hope this is of some use.Best wishes John
 

roscoe erf

Member
Livestock Farmer
Merry xmas -if its not too early.I don't want to pee on your parade but the reason there's a lot of farm bulker type work available is because its not very profitable
and given a choice nobody wants to do it.I was an o/d for 26 years and early on did grain haulage, having been a farmworker for a number of years.It was during a quiet
spell pre harvest that I realized there was work available where I could get loaded early, where I didn't get rained off,didnt have to sit and wait to tip/load, could backload with anything available and didn't have jobs cancelled at the last minute ie. when just turned in the yard.I have seen it from both sides so I know that's the nature of farming, but it doesn't help when you're trying to make a living as a one man band.
Anyrode up as they say in these parts if that hasn't put you off I wish you all the best. Just bear in mind that if you're carrying other peoples goods you'll need a full Standard National Operators Licence and the Ministry(showing my age now) will take a keen interest in you in the first few months to make sure you are sticking to the pledges you made.As long as you keep your nose clean they are not the ogres that people make them out to be.

You say you have your Class 1 (age thing again) but you'll also need Drivers CPC (expensive but fail proof) And a Digi card if the truck is relatively modern.Applying for an O licence can be a bit longwinded but the only real stumbling block is you or somebody connected to the business must have a Transport managers CPC(not to be confused with the Drivers CPC).It used to be that you could "employ" somebody to keep an eye on things but I think the ministry frown on this.They will send some one to inspect your Operating Centre and to check your maintenance arrangements,and they'll be back a few months later to check all your paper work and to make sure everything is top notch.Bent nails and binder twine will not do.No offence but you know what I mean.
As others have said you dont need a new lorry with all the whistle and bells especially on locals, but it does need to be reliable economical and have a good payload . Whatever you buy its an expensive bit of kit and the standing costs or overheads or whatever you want to call them are considerable .The idea of doing a couple of loads between morning and afternoon milking or feeding,the figures just wouldn't stack up.It really ought to be working to the maximum of the drivers legal hours which is difficult to do on locals which always paid best for me. Hope this is of some use.Best wishes John
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tomg

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Location
York
Thanks for your input John, I hope to keep the wagon fairy busy as I can devote a quite a lot of time to it and having 2 drivers helps.
I have all my driver cpc and drivers card in place already as I have been driving part time for a company on fridge work. Transport managers cpc is proving a nuisance at the moment but ive booked myself in to do the test in march and if I pass I'll apply for the operators licence.
I know costs are key in this business so currently doing my research into reliability of various makes of truck and trailer. Im keen to keep the initial outlay to a minimum, with a view that if it doesn't work I can sell the outfit and money lost is minimal.
Its surprising how little trucks and trailers are worth compared to tractors and trailers. Tom
 

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