Rural Bin Collection

renewablejohn

Member
Location
lancs
We have been told our rural bin collection will cease as to expensive and the cheap vehicles they keep buying keep breaking down due to rough farm tracks. Any farmers taken over a bin collection and if so what are the problems.
 

Kidds

Member
Horticulture
Have put my bin bags at the end of our lane for as long as I remember. Can't remember them ever coming to the house. (except at Xmas when they turn up expecting a tip for some reason)
 

Spartacus

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Lancaster
We have been told our rural bin collection will cease as to expensive and the cheap vehicles they keep buying keep breaking down due to rough farm tracks. Any farmers taken over a bin collection and if so what are the problems.
Ours havent come up our lane for about 5 years now, got a wheely bin at the bottom for all the properties up our lane, only down side is its a large industrial one that gets others dumping rubbish in it as well!
 

renewablejohn

Member
Location
lancs
Ours havent come up our lane for about 5 years now, got a wheely bin at the bottom for all the properties up our lane, only down side is its a large industrial one that gets others dumping rubbish in it as well!

Not quite the right image when you have a high percentage of grade 2 listed buildings going for the best kept village award every year now with 300 wheelie bins illegally placed on the highway.
 

Spartacus

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Lancaster
Not quite the right image when you have a high percentage of grade 2 listed buildings going for the best kept village award every year now with 300 wheelie bins illegally placed on the highway.
No maybe not, most people in our village (sparsely populated) have a normal wheelie bin that they full and take down at the end of the two week cycle.

Saying that, is it down to the council to hide the bins away so the village can win the competition? Surely that would be down to the residents to look after wherever the bins were collected from?
 

renewablejohn

Member
Location
lancs
No maybe not, most people in our village (sparsely populated) have a normal wheelie bin that they full and take down at the end of the two week cycle.

Saying that, is it down to the council to hide the bins away so the village can win the competition? Surely that would be down to the residents to look after wherever the bins were collected from?

Land at the end of the lanes is privately owned and council is not prepared to pay landowners for rental of land. However council not allowed to place bins on highway without highways permission hence stalemate. Only option we seem to have is to take control of the existing collection service with the aid of the Parish Council.
 

Spartacus

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Lancaster
Land at the end of the lanes is privately owned and council is not prepared to pay landowners for rental of land. However council not allowed to place bins on highway without highways permission hence stalemate. Only option we seem to have is to take control of the existing collection service with the aid of the Parish Council.
I think round here you gave to put the bins out onto the roadside but you only have 24 hours either side of the pick up time to leave them there or you get fined, not sure how hot they are on that in the country though, probably more likely to catch the fines in towns.
 

renewablejohn

Member
Location
lancs
I think round here you gave to put the bins out onto the roadside but you only have 24 hours either side of the pick up time to leave them there or you get fined, not sure how hot they are on that in the country though, probably more likely to catch the fines in towns.

The proposal is that the bins stay there 7 days a week.
 

renewablejohn

Member
Location
lancs
Looks like the short term solution is going to be a private collection if the Parish Council agrees to part of the funding. Has anyone any experience of a domestic waste transfer site on a farm. Looking to do a community recycling scheme when the contract comes up for renewal in 2020 depending on how long planning approval takes.
 

chickens and wheat

Member
Mixed Farmer
I Stayed in Georgia USA for a month or 2 years ago, my landlord and neighbour (ww2 vet) had a pickup and took on the task of street binman.I helped him a few times, driving down the street picking up bags from people who liked and taking them to the tip, everyone else had to make there own arrangements, No council service available. As far as I know he didnt charge , purely good will.
I stopped going on his round after his cup of chewing baccy spit fell all over the dashboard.
 

Still Farming

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
South Wales UK
Yes we could do everything the council do in rural areas very easily.
And MORE.
brush streets-collect rubbish-garden waste etc.etc. but NO WAY if they rob us with these sky high rates as well.
If they did a deal -farmers are very versitile people and local Council should notice this ???
 

renewablejohn

Member
Location
lancs
Yes we could do everything the council do in rural areas very easily.
And MORE.
brush streets-collect rubbish-garden waste etc.etc. but NO WAY if they rob us with these sky high rates as well.
If they did a deal -farmers are very versitile people and local Council should notice this ???

Has anybody used the communities right to challenge in the 2011 localism act. Seems as though it could be a way of extracting these services out of council control.
 

musker

Member
Location
Nottinghamshire
Your local District or unitary council has a legal obligation to arrange the collection of domestic waste. It doesn't have to be in bins. You need to contact them and ask what arrangements they propose to collect for your particular circumstances. Parish council collections sound like a good idea but the costs are very high. In any event domestic rates already pay for this service. You shouldn't have to pay extra. Many rural authorities have the same issues so these problems have been and are being solved satisfactorily
 

renewablejohn

Member
Location
lancs
Why dont you repair your "rough "farm tracks ?

Tracks where not rough that was just the excuse.If they really wanted they could have used the Unimog which they bought just in case it snowed. At present have no bins as both bins have been stolen from the roadside. The council have said they will replace but seems like we will have to wait until there is a "R" in the month.
 

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