Saler x Holstein /Friesian possible suckler cow?

[Sir loin]

Anyone use this as a suckler cow my thinking is wide pelvis area from the saler milk from the holstien/Friesian .

 

[tr250]

Be a bit plain in my opinion I like saler cows but I don’t think there good enough to be crossed with Holsteins you’d need a serious bull to make a decent calf

 

[Sharpy]

We had one, a neighbours bull jumped in with another neighbours dairy cows, we bought the calf to put on a cow.
Upsides.
Grew very fast
Good caring mother without being a psyco.
Lots of milk
Its calves grew like weeds
Very biddable, would come to a whistle and was great for shifting stores about or jumpy cows, it would then run out a 3ft gap when you wanted.
Big big pelvis

Downsides
Huge cow
Lost 3 calves, certainly 2 were badly presented twins.
Fertility not fantastic, probably due to giving so much milk also confirmation not wonderful. (Holstein influence)
Went cull at 10 years old due to not being in calf ( about 4 years early)

Would we have some again?

Yes, ideally out of more friesian type but calved at 2 to reduce mature size, and different management re speaning calves.

 

[sticky]

imo they they would make a suckler cow but if they were my cows i would put a saler back on them for 2 or 3 years and breed up. At the end of it you would have a cracking suckler herd.

 

[M-J-G]

They can be just like a black Holstein.

A mate of mine had a few and they were very lean and plain, by weaning time they looked ill, and he spent a good part of the winter trying to build them back up.

 

[Whitepeak]

We have one to go to the bull this spring. So we'll wait and see what she turns out like, she looks good atm. Someone regularly sells Salers x calves in Bakewell, which is where we picked ours up from.

Local dairy and suckler farm was breeding some, but I think he was serving the Holsteins to lim first then the lim crosses to the Salers with those eventually being put to the charolais. They have a good pedigree herd of Charolais so wanted cows to put them over. Not sure why he didn't use Salers on the Holstein straight away

 

[AGN76]

Anyone use this as a suckler cow my thinking is wide pelvis area from the saler milk from the holstien/Friesian .

When you see the size of the Charolais calves the pure Salers rear, i don't think you need the dairy input!

 

[John Chance]

No need. Salers have plenty of milk and very long lactations. That's the point of them.

 

[spin cycle]

imo they they would make a suckler cow but if they were my cows i would put a saler back on them for 2 or 3 years and breed up. At the end of it you would have a cracking suckler herd.

surely you'd nearly have a pure saler by then

 

[ISCO]

Be a bit plain in my opinion I like saler cows but I don’t think there good enough to be crossed with Holsteins you’d need a serious bull to make a decent calf

We have pure saler cows which we like. A few years ago we bought some dairy X saler calves as replacements and they were very plain. Stopped doing it now.