Same 130

bazza3034

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Finally got it, I think !!!!! Went back and took off the Bango seals and they were full of dirt as well. Cleaned then out and fuel is flowing now. Also spotted a small leak in the seal over the fuel filter that is cracked and leaking fuel. Didn't notice it before as wasnt leaking until the full pressure was returned to system. That's for all yer help Mur and lads. Took me a few days of trying to figure it out and would be still there without yer help.!!!!
Replace any plastic or rubber hoses as they are prone to perish with heat at the engine same are ronound for it
 

bazza3034

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The Tiger6 could be heard coming from miles away. Not transmission noise but noise from the front mounted hydraulic pumps. It's the external gear pumps mounted on the transmissions that make the most noise on the Exploer too I think, and nearly all the whine on my MF 5445.
We had a same buffalo in early 80s you would here her for miles coming I thought it was always the fan at the front that caused the wining noise maybe I'm losing it nothing could touch her for grip under power though think she need Ed set up on the desial
 

Milan

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Arable Farmer
Hi folks, I have a question regarding Same Silver 130 and as there was some discussion about that I choose this thread to ask.

As there are two fuel tanks connected at the back and as I can see pump is getting fuel from the back of the left tank, what's the minimum of the fuel (20l, 30l, 50l...) in the tanks to be sure that pump will be able to pull fuel when I am running downhill? How that works?

I am asking that because I recently had an issue because tractor was parked on the so small downhill and when I start it it worked in place for minute or two and it pulled air into system and shuts down. When I check fuel there was lets say about 4-5 inches on the front side of the tank. Then I refueled additional 50l, get air out of the filter by manual pumping and after that it started again.
 

Milan

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Arable Farmer
I am afraid now it can stop in the middle of work and this is why I will need to explore how it works exactly. Maybe there is a problem when level of fuel is low. I guess there was around 30l in the tank when problem appeared, maybe I just need to have at least 50l in tanks but this is ridiculous.
 

Green farmer

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I am afraid now it can stop in the middle of work and this is why I will need to explore how it works exactly. Maybe there is a problem when level of fuel is low. I guess there was around 30l in the tank when problem appeared, maybe I just need to have at least 50l in tanks but this is ridiculous.
All I can tell you is mine used to go "jumpy and stuttery" or used to simply loose all power and die before I fixed it. The fuel just wasn't getting to the engine. Amazing the difference once things were fixed. Where the pipes met the glass bottle and the uplift pump filter were the two main areas that were clogged solid. As previously said, wouldn't have figured it out , if not for the help I received on this forum.
 

Milan

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Arable Farmer
I will definitely check everything from tank to the pump step by step. I am currently busy by other stuff but I should be able to find some time in next month or two to check this in detail.
 

Mur Huwcun

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North West Wales
As said remove all banjo bolts around the glass bowl, they’re the worst dirt traps, blow back to tank plus check both tanks breather pipes on the top rear that they’re clear, it coukd have a pipe connecting one to another on the top aswell
 

Mur Huwcun

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Livestock Farmer
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North West Wales
Keep the tanks full, we had one with a cracked standpipe once and it messed about when it went below half full

ours is not breathing properly and takes ages to fill to the top this summer or fill it to the brim and accept in about ten minutes you have just under three quarters full!! Will need to blow them through
 

Milan

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Arable Farmer
As said remove all banjo bolts around the glass bowl, they’re the worst dirt traps, blow back to tank plus check both tanks breather pipes on the top rear that they’re clear, it coukd have a pipe connecting one to another on the top aswell
This is what I usually do on other machines, but this one does not have glass bowl, I know exactly where it should be, on the left when you look at filters, but it's probably removed by previous owner for some reason, don't know why. I will also check with my local service if I should bring it back.
 

Mur Huwcun

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Livestock Farmer
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North West Wales
This is what I usually do on other machines, but this one does not have glass bowl, I know exactly where it should be, on the left when you look at filters, but it's probably removed by previous owner for some reason, don't know why. I will also check with my local service if I should bring it back.

Banjos will be on filter housing and lift pump though, check them just in case
 

Fendtbro

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I’m quite surprised to hear that the same is a high traction tractor. I maybe Wrongly considered them to be quite lightweight? For me, traction= weight x tyre size. Real diff locks of course essential. The Renault’s were considered good gripping too but I can’t see why one is better than another really. Side slopes and the smaller wheels feel much safer..
 

box

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Livestock Farmer
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NZ
I’m quite surprised to hear that the same is a high traction tractor. I maybe Wrongly considered them to be quite lightweight? For me, traction= weight x tyre size. Real diff locks of course essential. The Renault’s were considered good gripping too but I can’t see why one is better than another really. Side slopes and the smaller wheels feel much safer..
You're right, they are light. For traction they punch above their weight, but nothing spectacular. Stability on hills is where they really shine.
 

Fendtbro

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You're right, they are light. For traction they punch above their weight, but nothing spectacular. Stability on hills is where they really shine.
Ah right.. I used to cut gorse on some stupid steep ground with the old zetor 12045. It would literally climb a wall and feel dead safe. When I downgraded? to the fendt I almost rolled it on the same bit of ground! Taller wheels were bound to be the difference.
 
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box

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NZ
Taller wheels were bound to be the difference.
Or maybe the Fendt was almost 2 tonnes heavier with a higher centre of gravity?

New tractors aren't made for dangerous work on hills, they're too fat and soggy......they're more at home in a clean flat field towing a plough or mowing silage.
 
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