Save Our Farms

[Bruce Almighty]

Apologies for stating the obvious.

We are in a crazy situation where in my opinion, a campaign needs promoting to save/support farming in England.

Re-Wilding is throwing money at those that need it least.

Look at what's happened to @CopperBeech, a very good farmer who has been stitched up

Clueless idiots like Ed Sheeran thinking they can clear their conscience of their environmental damage by buying land and letting it go to wrack and ruin.

Where is the NFU when we need them most?

Should we be lobbying the Daily Telegraph & the Daily Mail to get the message to the general public?

At least The Times have printed some common sense.

The affect of this stupidity will mean food price inflation for the poor.

It is the duty of our nation's farmers to feed the nation, surely the lessons from 75 years ago have not been forgotten?

Rely on imports at your peril.

Let's hope that Boris's stupidity and lies over lock down parties bring him down, together with Princess Nut Nuts.

Is Rishi Sunak our saviour?

 

[ARW]

Let them starve, they are all to fat anyway

 

[grainboy]

Apologies
But
Why can anyone control or dictate what someone else wants to do with their property,
Fact of life,

 

[JP1]

The National Farmland Trust - a not for profit organisation

The National Farmland Trust | Protecting your food source, protecting your farmland, protecting your countryside

www.nationalfarmlandtrust.org

An organisation with high ideals - part of the OP's question.

Even if they don't buy much land to save it, the campaign to stop first development of prime agricultural land for building over brownfield sites

 

[Jackov Altraids]

Apologies for stating the obvious.

We are in a crazy situation where in my opinion, a campaign needs promoting to save/support farming in England.

Re-Wilding is throwing money at those that need it least.

Look at what's happened to @CopperBeech, a very good farmer who has been stitched up

Clueless idiots like Ed Sheeran thinking they can clear their conscience of their environmental damage by buying land and letting it go to wrack and ruin.

Where is the NFU when we need them most?

Should we be lobbying the Daily Telegraph & the Daily Mail to get the message to the general public?

At least The Times have printed some common sense.

The affect of this stupidity will mean food price inflation for the poor.

It is the duty of our nation's farmers to feed the nation, surely the lessons from 75 years ago have not been forgotten?

Rely on imports at your peril.

Let's hope that Boris's stupidity and lies over lock down parties bring him down, together with Princess Nut Nuts.

Is Rishi Sunak our saviour?

I agree except that it is clearly no longer our duty to feed the nation.
There has always been an unwritten understanding that farmers should be given some financial protection in the knowledge that they will never be able to profiteer in a time of shortage.
When there is a shortage, you should feel completely at ease to sell to whomever is the highest bidder as we've been robbed by competing with the lowest for decades.
Remove protection and support, do not expect any sense of duty.

 

[Ali_Maxxum]

Well the only people that would probably be in support are other farmers, and a very small amount of joe public that do understand and appreciate the hard work and lack of return in the job.

Taking on more national debt definitely isn't the solution.

These wilding 'incentives' don't appear to be worth a fart.

Farmers that can continue without support, will, and others will struggle on or simply not. It's a harsh reality as I am from small family farming but it just seems to be the way it's going.

If it's not lack of support it's ever increasing cost of machinery, fertiliser, plastic, materials, oils, rules for muck, lack of labour and enough other things to sink a ship.

 

[SteveHants]

Apologies
But
Why can anyone control or dictate what someone else wants to do with their property,
Fact of life,

If they are being paid to rewild they someone is having a bloody good go at it.

Fancy being paid to do nowt.......oh, wait.....

 

[livestock 1]

Apologies
But
Why can anyone control or dictate what someone else wants to do with their property,
Fact of life,

It’s trading conditions that steer farmers in certain directions that government desires
Look back at farming through the years, drive for production then quotas followed by environmental schemes.
Governments would look unpopular dictating what can and can’t happen with other peoples property but they can manipulate conditions we trade in to force us to do what they want
They have managed it well in the past

 

[CopperBeech]

Apologies
But
Why can anyone control or dictate what someone else wants to do with their property,
Fact of life,

Lots of country’s have something in place to stop the selling off of all of their productive farm land for amenity use. I think it’s called safe guarding your future .....

 

[Bald Rick]

We could (by which I mean England as you're the ones lumbered with ELMS) end up with a sort of Ministry of Food again which will dictate what gets rewilded, what land has a few livestock and where crops are grown
(Plus all those factories turning out meat soup)

Fantastic

 

[grainboy]

Lots of country’s have something in place to stop the selling off of all of their productive farm land for amenity use. I think it’s called safe guarding your future .....

I would call that either a dictatorship or just pure elitism,

 

[BRB John]

I would call that either a dictatorship or just pure elitism,

I think it's authoritarian rather than a dictatorship....
And that's kinda the whole point of the government is to tell us what to do and what not to.
It's just where do you draw the line of going too far.

 

[MrNoo]

I marvel at some still spanking money on new Fendt's, £60+K on a drills etc etc, do they not see what is around the corner?? I am all but done with it, Red Tractor, NFU nonsense, no fun in farming anymore, am fortunately going to just bang in more solar and put some more light industrial units in.
It is fairly obvious that this Gov dont give a toss about the smaller farmers along with our so say Union

 

[kfpben]

I marvel at some still spanking money on new Fendt's, £60+K on a drills etc etc, do they not see what is around the corner?? I am all but done with it, Red Tractor, NFU nonsense, no fun in farming anymore, am fortunately going to just bang in more solar and put some more light industrial units in.
It is fairly obvious that this Gov dont give a toss about the smaller farmers along with our so say Union

The issue in one post.
‘Save our farms’!
What will the NFU do about it etc….
Oh I want to put a solar farm and industrial units in on my farm.
How would you feel if NFU policy was to campaign against solar farms?

 

[MrNoo]

The issue in one post.
‘Save our farms’!
What will the NFU do about it etc….
Oh I want to put a solar farm and industrial units in on my farm.
How would you feel if NFU policy was to campaign against solar farms?

They can do what they want, gov dont want our produce, I dont wish to plant trees and re-wild, I also dont want to be working for peanuts for the rest of my life and I have options for solar.
Lets be honest here, the NFU do completely feck all so the chance of them campaigning against solar is laughable

 

[livestock 1]

They can do what they want, gov dont want our produce, I dont wish to plant trees and re-wild, I also dont want to be working for peanuts for the rest of my life and I have options for solar.
Lets be honest here, the NFU do completely feck all so the chance of them campaigning against solar is laughable

This ^ is what I mean by government creating trading conditions to steer us in any particular direction
I can remember in the 80’s where profit wasn’t such a dirty word or what I should say was reasonable profit for investment and effort

 

[MrNoo]

This ^ is what I mean by government creating trading conditions to steer us in any particular direction
I can remember in the 80’s where profit wasn’t such a dirty word or what I should say was reasonable profit for investment and effort

Yes, exactly right. And I am sure that one day it will turn around and bite them on the arse, when it does prices will soar but solar and light ind is just diversification, a diversification that delivers regular £££ that far outweigh anything I can earn growing crops on my ground. Also I would know my income pretty much exactly for the next 25-30 years forward, not something you could do with arable realistically.

 

[7610 super q]

Apologies
But
Why can anyone control or dictate what someone else wants to do with their property,
Fact of life,

This. If you don't want to re wild your land, or plant trees on it...........don't do it. And don't take any pathetic government handouts to do so.
If someone stumps up £10k + per acre to buy land to plant trees/ re wild, then tough, let them get on with it. ( There won't be many that will actually put their hands in their pockets ).
Land owners can do what they want with their own property. Unless we become a communist state that is........

 

[No wot]

"Is Rishi Sunak our saviour " not until he's starving he not , best fasten your seat belt , the die is nearly cast

 

[Norfolk Hill Farmer]

Apologies
But
Why can anyone control or dictate what someone else wants to do with their property,
Fact of life,

Thats like saying someone could own all our reservoirs we get our drinking water from ,and turn them into water parks. As all of us need to eat three times a day, I think the government should have a strategy to keep food consumed in this country, for the most part , produced in this country.