Scab

[The sheep dipper man]

I was wondering about that earlier. Are shedding sheep cheaper, as they obviously take a lot less out?

This is were people go wrong, people think that the water is the issue when dipping the fact is the chemical strips out quicker than the water depletes, although sheep with longer wool will draw more water out the chemical strips out at the same rate no matter the length of the wool

 

[The sheep dipper man]

if it’s Romanian Alex from Perrimans it’s made and operated under licence from Neil.

He is Bulgarian ?

 

[neilo]

This is were people go wrong, people think that the water is the issue when dipping the fact is the chemical strips out quicker than the water depletes, although sheep with longer wool will draw more water out the chemical strips out at the same rate no matter the length of the wool

That's what I was wondering. I know, from when we used to dip, we replenished the chemical after so many sheep, not just as the water went down.

 

[The sheep dipper man]

The latest SA guidelines says dip!

I can’t find the relevant document online but @The sheep dipper man might know where it was. I had an email a few weeks ago from the SA I’m sure it was saying if you have scab don’t mess around and just dip - phoning for a derogation or vet to authorise it ideally. Animals that have been dipped can’t be sold as organic, so the most convenient time for me to dip is September - Christmas and to use the Rappa solely on store lambs if they have scab, thanks to a bad neighbour I may well be going for a derogation to dip, I’m sure some of the other Organic bodies are more realistic to the whole issue.

Organic rules i belive state that sheep with organic status can be dipped as it is a welfare issue, however withdrawal periods have to be doubled.

 

[The sheep dipper man]

That's what I was wondering. I know, from when we used to dip, we replenished the chemical after so many sheep, not just as the water went down.

Yes its the number of sheep passed throught the bath rather than the water level. Water does need replenishing every time you have dipped 96 sheep (my dip bath size) along with top up of chemical also.

 

[Al R]

Just found this, back in the days when lambs were 130p/kg, wheat was £100/t and in a year called 1985.

 

[neilo]

Just found this, back in the days when lambs were 130p/kg, wheat was £100/t and in a year called 1985.

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It’s them ‘Welsh’ that are causing all the problems.....

 

[Al R]

It’s them ‘Welsh’ that are causing all the problems.....

I did laugh at that too

 

[Anymulewilldo]

It’s them ‘Welsh’ that are causing all the problems.....

Nice too know that some things haven't changed in 35 years! ??

Joking joking, put down the forks!

 

[johnb5555]

Noticed this time thst replenishment rates for Golden Fleece have changed. 180ml every top up instead of x ml of dip to x litres of water

 

[Amcnab]

Can take weeks/months so show clinical signs however sheep could have sub clinical signs.
Only way to see would be an Elisa test but have to wsit two weeks until it csn be done

Done mine with dectomax and sprayed som concentrated dip on with knapsack type sprayer

 

[SteveHants]

Why should I dip mine? We are double fenced due to everything being mv accredited and I don’t buy stock in, or very rarely and not from a market sale if at all possible.
If I were to dip my sheep in the Autumn, it would make no difference if the biggest risk here is birds carrying wool from a neighbour that takes in tack sheep.

If I get scab here, I will likely dip, but I have no intention of buggering up my health, not to mention adding cost, by dipping routinely, unless it becomes a legal requirement for everyone to do so.

I can quite see the point of dipping everything onto the farm these days though, where you buy in replacements (especially from markets) or store lambs from all over.

This is the core of the problem really. The way the UK sheep industry is structured is a biosecurity nightmare.

 

[lloyd]

It’s them ‘Welsh’ that are causing all the problems.....

Won't be able to blame the Welsh in a few years time
as it will all be planted in trees ??

 

[Al R]

Won't be able to blame the Welsh in a few years time
as it will all be planted in trees ??

Good luck planting trees here....... even gorse gets killed by the salt

 

[lloyd]

Good luck planting trees here....... even gorse gets killed by the salt

Sea Eagle nature reserve then

 

[unlacedgecko]

Done mine with dectomax and sprayed som concentrated dip on with knapsack type sprayer

Nothing like trying to encourage dip resistance as well as injectable resistance

 

[Amcnab]

Nothing like trying to encourage dip resistance as well as injectable resistance

Sod off,your only a shepard

 

[The sheep dipper man]

Done mine with dectomax and sprayed som concentrated dip on with knapsack type sprayer

Not a good way to to rhe job

 

[The sheep dipper man]

Noticed this time thst replenishment rates for Golden Fleece have changed. 180ml every top up instead of x ml of dip to x litres of water

Its 180 ml of concentrate dip after the passage of 36 sheep if the dip tank is 500gal or less or 480 ml of concentrate dip after the passage of 96 sheep if the dip tank is over 500gal and topped up to its original water level. Follow these guides and there wont be a problem

 

[Al R]

Its 180 ml of concentrate dip after the passage of 36 sheep if the dip tank is 500gal or less or 480 ml of concentrate dip after the passage of 96 sheep if the dip tank is over 500gal and topped up to its original water level. Follow these guides and there wont be a problem

So that means in simple terms 480 plus a kn0bfull for every 100