Scanning %

[beardface]

Ewes scanned at 191% the other day.
276 ewes
62 singles
165 twins
36 threes
6 quads
7 barren

Happy with the result as were outdoors for the second year, would be happier with less multiples but can't win them all and that's off the back of lean ewes at tupping due to a dry summer, shows the Mayo boluses did there job.

 

[jemski]

Aweful aweful scan. What are you normally getting to be disappointed with that

Yeah ok not catastrophic but it's been around 190-200% for the last 2 years. Just too many singles for my liking for an indoor late Feb lambing, but on the plus side not so many lambs to have to foster...

 

[ISCO]

Scanned 450 mule texel and charolais cross at 160%
Suffered from selenium deficiency last summer and could not get them fit enough for tupping. One batch of 72 particularly poor ewes which we were feeding at tupping 123%.
Good thing is that most ewes now look well and are fleshed so easier lambing, cut some feed costs and have lots of single lambs away early and then look forward to next year.

 

[shearerlad]

First lot in for tomorrow morning. Currently myself

 

[Downton_shep]

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First lot in for tomorrow morning. Currently myself

No point worrying now! What will be, will be.

 

[shearerlad]

Well that was
134%.
22% empty. Waiting on vet to phone back with advice on testing.

 

[Jim75]

Well that was
134%.
22% empty. Waiting on vet to phone back with advice on testing.

You're not alone @shearerlad. Not as many empties but similar scanning rate.We've tested our empties for enzo and toxo. Should've had the results yesterday. Testing should be covered by MSD. It's gutting just have to do what we can do

 

[shearerlad]

Looking at MSD website just now.

It's a sickening blow but just got to make every lamb that's born count.

 

[Downton_shep]

Well that was
134%.
22% empty. Waiting on vet to phone back with advice on testing.

Bugger

 

[Bones]

No point worrying now! What will be, will be.

Well that was
134%.
22% empty. Waiting on vet to phone back with advice on testing.

Let's us know what the vet says, a lot of people over here with to many empties this year, including my self ,and all my sheep are done for enzo + toxo.

 

[scholland]

Scanned our own ewes today first the hoggs which are Shetland/cheviot x texel

Then the main batch of ewes same way bred as the hoggs.

Then the Shetland x cheviot ladies who are on harder ground.

If i could have that scan every year I'd take it.

 

[Hollykip]

Scanned flock today
Dutch texel, beltex ,texel and Charolais ewes
Empty 19
Singles 134
Twins 228
Triplets 42
424 ewes scanned
1.69%

Is 19 empty(4.5%) to many taps in 60 days

 

[neilo]

Scanned flock today
Dutch texel, beltex ,texel and Charolais ewes
Empty 19
Singles 134
Twins 228
Triplets 42
424 ewes scanned
1.69%

Is 19 empty(4.5%) to many taps in 60 days

Are they purebred ewes? I always get more empties in purebred ewes than in crossbreds. I've always blamed lack of hybrid vigour, along with the odd that 'gets another chance', which doesn't happen in the crossbreds.

 

[BELOWAVERAGE]

Are they purebred ewes? I always get more empties in purebred ewes than in crossbreds. I've always blamed lack of hybrid vigour, along with the odd that 'gets another chance', which doesn't happen in the crossbreds.

I know they are your pedigree's to breed your tups, but have you ever tried changing the breed of tup for the second cycle, to see if it lessened the empty's.

 

[Hollykip]

Some are purebreed majority not
Use the Charolais as a cross out
But at a loss with the charolais breed at the moment(I know they are you're breed
Going to try a rouge rightly or wrongly

 

[Hollykip]

move tups round after 16 days

 

[Bones]

Some are purebreed majority not
Use the Charolais as a cross out
But at a loss with the charolais breed at the moment(I know they are you're breed
Going to try a rouge rightly or wrongly

Tried a rouge last year ,you'll be surprised at the weight and shapes they throw.

 

[liammogs]

Tried a rouge last year ,you'll be surprised at the weight and shapes they throw.

Same as everything theres a large variation within a breed but the last roughe i seen i dont think theyd be throwing as shapey lambs as a charly

 

[neilo]

I know they are your pedigree's to breed your tups, but have you ever tried changing the breed of tup for the second cycle, to see if it lessened the empty's.

Why do you think that would make a difference? The ewe would still lack hybrid vigour.
I have put a small number to a Beltex tup last year and this, and proportion empty have been about the same in those.
Very few returns in the naturally mated pedigree ewes in October (obviously season/sponging/AI skews the early ones), but still more empties than in the crossbred ewes.

 

[BELOWAVERAGE]

Why do you think that would make a difference? The ewe would still lack hybrid vigour.
I have put a small number to a Beltex tup last year and this, and proportion empty have been about the same in those.
Very few returns in the naturally mated pedigree ewes in October (obviously season/sponging/AI skews the early ones), but still more empties than in the crossbred ewes.

A mate of mine put a welsh ram lamb, in with some suffolk ewes as a teaser before putting a charolais tup in, he then left the ram lamb in thinking he wouldn't get a look in, they all lambed in the time scale of having the charolais with them, but most had welsh lambs, not suggesting you should use a welsh tup, but just thinking semen from other breeds, might reach the parts a pedigree charollais can't, bit like using a fertility plus beef straw on a holstein cow.