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Mac M3

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Location
Ross shire
Reading through these posts
Disgusted to read soldiers are been assaulted on the street but not surprising
as some of them Scot natzis are pretty fanatical.
Amazing they have any support at all given the deterioration of our education standards that were top notch 20 years ago,and as for their community buyouts
which are propped up with taxpayers money,pretty much all of them have ran out of money.
Only ones who have benefited from the Edinburgh mob are the LGBT
community and those gettng their hand outs.
 

Agrivator

Member
We never know what's round the corner. Nicola might come out as gay, and disappear. Eck might end up in Carstairs or whatever is the current institution for the criminally insane.
 

juke

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Location
DURHAM
just been reading this thread from start to finish, I have a couple of questions for anyone that cares to answer

what proportion of Scottish gdp goes to the ship yards building for the royal navy.
how much is contributed to local and national economies by having her majestys forces in scotland.

how much of Scotlands agriculture depends on export to the rest of the union be that supply industry or farmers produce and what would that cash value be.

what would Scotland do for physical cash


how would Scotland hope to rejoin the e.u when there would be staunch resistance from other member states that are facing there own issues ie spain with the catlans .

i fear any vote for independence from the union would be detrimental for the Scottish people each to there own if thats what they want but be prepared for the whirlwind that westminster would reap .
 
We never know what's round the corner. Nicola might come out as gay, and disappear. Eck might end up in Carstairs or whatever is the current institution for the criminally insane.

Why on earth would someone being gay cause them to disappear? Unless they were planning to disappear anyway.

I've always found it bizarre that anyone would have to come out as gay?

I mean I didn't have to come out as being straight.
 
just been reading this thread from start to finish, I have a couple of questions for anyone that cares to answer

what proportion of Scottish gdp goes to the ship yards building for the royal navy.
how much is contributed to local and national economies by having her majestys forces in scotland.

how much of Scotlands agriculture depends on export to the rest of the union be that supply industry or farmers produce and what would that cash value be.

what would Scotland do for physical cash


how would Scotland hope to rejoin the e.u when there would be staunch resistance from other member states that are facing there own issues ie spain with the catlans .

i fear any vote for independence from the union would be detrimental for the Scottish people each to there own if thats what they want but be prepared for the whirlwind that westminster would reap .
It's ok, you might still get to sell your Charolais bulls in Stirling, Scotland might need the turnover. :LOL:
 

arcobob

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Location
Norfolk
Why on earth would someone being gay cause them to disappear? Unless they were planning to disappear anyway.

I've always found it bizarre that anyone would have to come out as gay?

I mean I didn't have to come out as being straight.
I totally agree but at the present rate you will soon be classed as gay and straight will mean any other persuasion. Is this trend fueled by hormones in food or global warming.?
 

Danllan

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Location
Sir Gar / Carms
Why on earth would someone being gay cause them to disappear? Unless they were planning to disappear anyway.

I've always found it bizarre that anyone would have to come out as gay?

I mean I didn't have to come out as being straight.
I tend to agree with this; I'm simply not interested what consenting adults do between themselves and within the law, it's none of my business and I don't care or want to be told by anyone.

Take away any or all of: consent, adulthood, privacy and legality and I'm happy for people to be publicly held to account. But only then.
 

caveman

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Location
East Sussex.
You don't have to come out as straight, that's my point.

Which is why I wonder why should gay people have to come out as gay, why should it be treated as different and have to be declared?
Is very strange.
Is it the same as coming out as vegan/veggie?
Understandable in small inter reacting circles. Non essential as a public figure?
Unlike being of a different colour or race, which is most often quite evident without any need for declaration?
 
I totally agree but at the present rate you will soon be classed as gay and straight will mean any other persuasion. Is this trend fueled by hormones in food or global warming.?
I don't think homosexuality caused by what someone eats or by climate.

From what I can tell it's not proportionately any more common than it ever was, but being accepted in society is more common, so it has become more apparent.

Homosexuality is age old, most of us know of an old boy who lived on his own years ago and never married, some of those men may have been gay, but society may not have been too kind to him if they'd made their orientation public, so they just kept it to themselves rather than have a partner.
 
Is very strange.
Is it the same as coming out as vegan/veggie?
Understandable in small inter reacting circles. Non essential as a public figure?
Unlike being of a different colour or race, which is most often quite evident without any need for declaration?
Funnily I often wonder the same about vegans etc. feeling the need to let people know their situation when nobody really cares.

A lot of people want to be treated differently due to their situation in some kind of false cry where they claim to want to be treated the same.

If people of particular groups - be that based on gender, race, Religeon, sexual orientation of whatever else you can think of, want to be treated the same as everyone else then they have to be happy to p!$$ off and be a nobody, just like the rest of the population.
But many want exceptions to be made, because being treated as an average person isn't actually what they want.

It's a bit like the equal opportunities cry, but equal opportunities aren't what most people want, what they are really after is equal outcomes, which is crazy.
 

Agrivator

Member
Why on earth would someone being gay cause them to disappear? Unless they were planning to disappear anyway.

I've always found it bizarre that anyone would have to come out as gay?

I mean I didn't have to come out as being straight.

I once confided in someone that ''my mother made me a homosexual''.

He replied, ''if I buy her the wool, will she make me one too?''
 

Danllan

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Location
Sir Gar / Carms
...A lot of people want to be treated differently due to their situation in some kind of false cry where they claim to want to be treated the same.

If people of particular groups - be that based on gender, race, Religeon, sexual orientation of whatever else you can think of, want to be treated the same as everyone else then they have to be happy to p!$$ off and be a nobody, just like the rest of the population.
But many want exceptions to be made, because being treated as an average person isn't actually what they want.

It's a bit like the equal opportunities cry, but equal opportunities aren't what most people want, what they are really after is equal outcomes, which is crazy.
Bl**dy hell! I agree with that too. Do yourself a favour and don't listen to 'Woman's Hour' on BBC R4; if the above irritates you, that show will make your blood boil - no surprise that it is often called 'The Bitching Hour'...

I once confided in someone that ''my mother made me a homosexual''.

He replied, ''if I buy her the wool, will she make me one too?''
Is that you 'coming out'? In a nice way, we don't care! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
 

Muck Spreader

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
just been reading this thread from start to finish, I have a couple of questions for anyone that cares to answer

what proportion of Scottish gdp goes to the ship yards building for the royal navy.
how much is contributed to local and national economies by having her majestys forces in scotland.

how much of Scotlands agriculture depends on export to the rest of the union be that supply industry or farmers produce and what would that cash value be.

what would Scotland do for physical cash


how would Scotland hope to rejoin the e.u when there would be staunch resistance from other member states that are facing there own issues ie spain with the catlans .

i fear any vote for independence from the union would be detrimental for the Scottish people each to there own if thats what they want but be prepared for the whirlwind that westminster would reap .

Your economic arguments didn't stop English voting for Brexit. So, I would doubt they would much more effect with the Scots. Scotland is now in a 'catch 22' position, where it is likely to economically suffer disproportionately due to Brexit, but will also suffer to a similar extent in any independence deal. Ultimately, it will be down to doing a cordial and least damaging deal in either event. We can hope!
 

arcobob

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Location
Norfolk
Your economic arguments didn't stop English voting for Brexit. So, I would doubt they would much more effect with the Scots. Scotland is now in a 'catch 22' position, where it is likely to economically suffer disproportionately due to Brexit, but will also suffer to a similar extent in any independence deal. Ultimately, it will be down to doing a cordial and least damaging deal in either event. We can hope!
What economic arguments?
 

juke

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Location
DURHAM
I'll just clarify a couple things,
I do think from an economic point of view Scotland would suffer terribly Westminster would see too that.

In the EU referendum I voted remain Purley for selfish reasons and what I thought was best for north east England ..

The UK will be just fine in a post brexit world the Europeans know this and they know Boris and company can play hard ball now .

Scotland on its own just doesn't have the financial clout to stand alone ,I really don't get why Scotland would swap it's neighbours for support to be governed by a failing economy in Paris or worse those in Berlin dictating like they have in Greece ..

Just my thoughts like I say won't make any difference to me apart from I might need a passport to get into Scotland ,
 

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