Scottish ploughing championships

[Ley253]

Well, they would have only had the work to judge, not the men! Unlike today!

 

[Ley253]

Whilst clean it is hardly balanced but what really lets it down is the fact that it is a long long way from being straight. I am sure that the majority of vintage ploughmen would agree that it would be far better if unadulterated by the use of tailpieces.

I can agree re tail pieces, but having been docked points for not using them............! Perhaps your screen is distorted, It was straight when I took the shot!

 

[Lurker]

I can agree re tail pieces, but having been docked points for not using them............! Perhaps your screen is distorted, It was straight when I took the shot!

Well if it was straight when you took the shot, then there must be an issue with your camera either that or my screen is also distorted too lol

 

[Ley253]

Well if it was straight when you took the shot, then there must be an issue with your camera either that or my screen is also distorted too lol

Put a straight edge against it on the screen, ignoring perspective, its about a straight as you would get.

 

[wuddy]

Prefer this one, ground furr could possibly be a bit bigger but not much wrong with it.

Quite so, but you miss the point, which is all should be using the same rule book, the fact that said book is wrong, does not come into it! If judges can ignore it on the split, how can they be called to question on any other decision? This is my idea of a good stubble opening split.View attachment 739216

 

[Howard150]

Put a straight edge against it on the screen, ignoring perspective, its about a straight as you would get.

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[Ley253]

Nice indeed.

 

[Ley253]

View attachment 739384 Prefer this one, ground furr could possibly be a bit bigger but not much wrong with it.

Cant really agree. Not clean, disk has cut into first furrow on the return, and it wanders on approaching the camera. There is also the suspicion that its run out onto the headland much too far, though what looks like the mark may be a tramline. However that may be what the judges like up your way, and if so, is a prime example of the need for a official standard to be arrived at.

 

[wuddy]

Cant really agree. Not clean, disk has cut into first furrow on the return, and it wanders on approaching the camera. There is also the suspicion that its run out onto the headland much too far, though what looks like the mark may be a tramline. However that may be what the judges like up your way, and if so, is a prime example of the need for a official standard to be arrived at.

Bad marking out, scratch had been put in the middle of the tramline! Cut any less on way back would leave a step and stubble in the ground furr!

 

[Ley253]

Ha thats a usual problem these days! Man doing the marking follows the nice straight tramline.Kills any hope of good points for ins and outs.Even more fun if the lines have been sub soiled, then you have three headland marks to choose from!

 

[MrNoo]

Ha thats a usual problem these days! Man doing the marking follows the nice straight tramline.Kills any hope of good points for ins and outs.Even more fun if the lines have been sub soiled, then you have three headland marks to choose from!

Actually to disagree with you Harry on this one, sometimes it can work to your advantage. One match this year had the scratches along the tramline edge and right where my plot was the tramlines were slightly deeper (rutted) than any of the others, sandy soil with some moisture. We dont use quick entry top links but it actually worked very well, as the tractor back wheel fell into the rut as the plough went in and was lifted out the other end (again on a rutted tramline) as it climbed out of the tramline. In so doing the plough went in a treat, same place every time and came out beautifully, even I was surprised. I scored 15, 5 points more than anyone else in the class and it won me the match beating Keith Williams and Huw Enoch to qualify for next years Nationals.

 

[Petetheploughman]

View attachment 739384 Prefer this one, ground furr could possibly be a bit bigger but not much wrong with it.

Stuart Forsyth last year at Taunton had a terrible plot on a hill, but how the hell he did such a good job I really don't know? His opening to me looked faultless like the one in the picture.

 

[Fergie Ploughman]

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Very nice!

 

[Fergie Ploughman]

Quite so, but you miss the point, which is all should be using the same rule book, the fact that said book is wrong, does not come into it! If judges can ignore it on the split, how can they be called to question on any other decision? This is my idea of a good stubble opening split.View attachment 739216

Well I think it's bent, the earth furrow is too shallow and tail piece marking has ruined the furrows...just my opinion.

 

[wuddy]

Stuart Forsyth last year at Taunton had a terrible plot on a hill, but how the hell he did such a good job I really don't know? His opening to me looked faultless like the one in the picture.

Don’t get many flat fields up here for matches so he has had plenty practice, plus he is a reasonably good ploughman as well! Not saying that opening was perfect more I prefer one that hasn’t been manipulated with tail-pieces! Also the above was done with nothing more than yl 183’s

 

[Ley253]

Well I think it's bent, the earth furrow is too shallow and tail piece marking has ruined the furrows...just my opinion.

First of all, where in the description straight, clean, and well cut, is the requirements for a large , or indeed any sized earth furrow hidden. Remember, the earth furrow is only there because the plough needs support when the front body is in work, an opening done with the rear both ways can be just as good technically as the rear/ front version.Tail fins are "horses for courses" at a judges seminar two years ago, I was one of the clockwork mice, and was marked down for not using fins! here are the three opening splits done then, I prefer the second one, but the judges certainly did not, it scored 11!

 

[Ley253]

Don’t get many flat fields up here for matches so he has had plenty practice, plus he is a reasonably good ploughman as well! Not saying that opening was perfect more I prefer one that hasn’t been manipulated with tail-pieces! Also the above was done with nothing more than yl 183’s

Ah, that explains why its narrow, and the furrows are standing up. I think perhaps a flat share on the back would have given a cleaner bottom, wt 3 perhaps?

 

[Dealer]

One I did earlier. Can't understand why I only got 14 for it. Lol

 

[Ley253]

One I did earlier. Can't understand why I only got 14 for it. Lol

Its ok, you just missed the - sign!

 

[Howard150]

One I did earlier. Can't understand why I only got 14 for it. Lol

Hope you had your seatbelt on going round those bends!