Second wheat questions

alomy75

Member
Kerrin here as a 1st and 2nd wheat; getting harder to keep clean but will stay in the second wheat position as it usually can crack 10t/ha. Dawsum coming in to replace it as a 1st wheat-Costello parentage so will wait for some more data before that slides into 2nd wheat position. Start around 190kg 2nd week of October then 210 for 2nd wheats/early drilled spring wheat after beet (Chilham) then up to 250 for spring drilled
 

Will7

Member
BASE UK Member
Grown some 2nd wheats here this year for the first time in a while, reminded me why we don’t, they are not good crops !

seems occasionally we all need reminding why we do or don’t do the things we do !
I have done exactly the same, with exactly the same result. Hopefully I will learn my lesson this time.....
 
later drilled second wheats here do well if the winter is kind

latitude seed dressing not needed from mid october onwards if the seed has low fusarium levels no need for any seed dressing
if treating with a stack then high seed rates are essential thick stands can be managed but thin crops are often become un managable

straw from high yielding first wheats need baleing or mixing in with maxitillage
 

Farma Parma

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Northumberlandia
later drilled second wheats here do well if the winter is kind

latitude seed dressing not needed from mid october onwards if the seed has low fusarium levels no need for any seed dressing
if treating with a stack then high seed rates are essential thick stands can be managed but thin crops are often become un managable

straw from high yielding first wheats need baleing or mixing in with maxitillage
id rather edge on the lesser risk approach & use latitude & a good seed dressing
weather can change very quickly here from mid Oct every year to your disadvantage big style.
Plus none of it had any agchems until later in March this year. nor fert of any sort.
 

B'o'B

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NFFN Member
Location
Rutland
I’ve got a lot less take-all (virtually none that I’ve picked up so far) in my 2nd and 3rd wheats than I have in my 1st wheats and none of the land is what you would call good second wheat land………




…. but the firsts aren’t really true first wheats as they follow rye.
 

czechmate

Member
Mixed Farmer
I’ve got a lot less take-all (virtually none that I’ve picked up so far) in my 2nd and 3rd wheats than I have in my 1st wheats and none of the land is what you would call good second wheat land………




…. but the firsts aren’t really true first wheats as they follow rye.

never thought of rye, or triticale, as take all breaks for wheat
 

silverfox

Member
Location
Shropshire
Rye is a good 2nd cereal . Early harvest and then either OSR or stubble turnips before Maize . Harvested Today 21.9 ton/ acre @ 33% Dry matter over a weighbridge .
Bodes well for wheat and barley
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B'o'B

Member
NFFN Member
Location
Rutland
never thought of rye, or triticale, as take all breaks for wheat
Yes, I know it wasn’t the idea rotational choice. It was just the best of the available options and even with the level of take-all it will beat all other options (bar rape, but that’s quite a gamble here now)
 

teslacoils

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Rye is a good 2nd cereal . Early harvest and then either OSR or stubble turnips before Maize . Harvested Today 21.9 ton/ acre @ 33% Dry matter over a weighbridge .
Bodes well for wheat and barley
Depends a bit what the £ per ton is? Obs its probably commercially sensitive, but at 80p per ton per % DM its not very attractive.
 

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Written by William Kellett from Agriland

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The Health and Safety Executive for Northern Ireland (HSENI) alongside the Farm Safety Partnership (FSP), has named new farm safety champions and commended the outstanding work on farm safety that has been carried out in the farming community in the last 20 years.

Two of these champions are Malcom Downey, retired principal inspector for the Agri/Food team in HSENI and Harry Sinclair, current chair of the Farm Safety Partnership and former president of the Ulster Farmers’ Union (UFU).

Improving farm safety is the key aim of HSENI’s and the FSP’s work and...
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