Secondhand Toyota Landcruiser buying.

Cowabunga

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Ceredigion,Wales
LC 200 has a huge following over here...now all Sold Out awaiting the new 300 series... currently fetching a $10k premium over new.........we bought a V8 three years ago ...cost $135,000 (about 67,000 pounds).. scary money to part with..... did 55, 000 kilometres and sold it earlier in the year for another... Toyota Driveaway Price now $135k.. no haggling....paid $12k to change!... they always say buying the first one makes you feel faint....but changeover price makes you smile........show me something else that tows like the V8 and hold its value so well and I'll buy it........ even 20 year old versions with 350k on the clock are fetching $25k to 30k!!!!
Yes it is a bid favourite in Australia and New Zealand. My friend and I would have bought a 200 series each but the dealer at Swansea had a demo model and we were in my 100 series heading off the 50 miles to try it when the dealer rang and said that a salesman had taken it home and his wife had gone into labour and he'd left it in the hospital car park. That cock and bull story didn't go down well and we never heard from the dealer again. He bought a new Mercedes GL and I think I eventually bought the Q7 to replace a Range Rover for a 'couldn't refuse' price to change. On second thoughts it was probably the Audi that I thought of changing for a 200, because I don't think the 200 had been launched in 2006 when I bought the Q7.

By the way, the new 300 series replacement for the 200 is already in production and being shipped to selected markets worldwide in small numbers. Probably for press evaluation. The chip shortage may delay mass production and the official launch. Looks good with its 300hp and near 700Nm torque from a 3.3 litre V6 diesel through a ten speed automatic. This should run rings around the old 100 series with 4.2 straight 6 which has 200hp and 400Nm running through a four or, later, five speed automatic. Most 2.0 litre diesels can smash those figures these days. Time and tide wait for no vehicle.

It will be interesting to see what they come up with to replace the 150/Prado in a year or two's time. I'm somewhat surprised that they didn't rationalise the two models into one, running the same platform. The 150 will have been out for around 12 or 13 years before being replaced, which is prehistoric by vehicle standards, especially considering it being only a mild series of facelifts from the 120 and 90 series before that, launched if I remember correctly on the current platform around 1995. Even that was mainly a reskin of the 70 series shorty in the UK, known as the Land CruiserII if I remember correctly, which introduced the coil sprung live axles, but the 90 had independent front suspension. So it will be almost a LandRoveresque 30 years since the last really major model replacement of that platform.
 
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Hilly

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Cheapest on Ebay at the moment a 2008 model with 175000 miles @ £23500, you may buy a JLR product for less lol, not a bad price for an outdated machine Eh??, ps im not a Land Cruiser fan !!
Toyota is on a higher league all together than Landrover. Landrover fashionable junk , Toyota just good good practical tough vehicles, I’d rather pay 23 k for a land cruiser than have a ranger rover free ! I think it was the Range Rover sport voted most u reliable car ever .
 

Fendtbro

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The LC 200 is almost as rare as hen's teeth in the UK. People that want one will just have to pay. If there were thousands on the market like there are Range Rovers, that sell new by the gross annually, it would be a different story due to the choice available compared to the number of buyers that want older 'premium' vehicles that are costly to run. Especially if they fall into the high mileage and high road tax category. Plenty of choice you see. If the RR Sport is like what some farmers around here run to herd cattle and general farm work, I too would run a mile and wouldn't buy it at any cost. Plenty of nice mid price immaculate moderate mileage ones around that have never towed or been off tarmac.
Stop digging your hole ducky.. even if you go to where there are plenty of 200 series, they are worth big money. Even more so as they won’t be rusty in Australia and the Middle East. And they probably carry even more status out there than here!
 

Henery

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South shropshire
My Brother lives in Western Australia, sold LR for a while.. ...... oh the tales he told.... staff sweepstake as to how many vehicles would have been dropped off over a weekend by rescue.
He now sells Toyota......
 
More than any land rover product that's for sure
In your eyes, yes.
I'm in a very very affluent area, and I can assure you, Landcruiser rates below Transporter vans. Range Rovers and Tesla are the choice vehicles, followed by Transporters for the outdoor activity types. Never a Toyota...the neighbours would think you had fallen on hard times:eek:
 
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dave mountain

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Livestock Farmer
And business owners, industrialists, surgeons , chief executives, vice presidents, land owners, investors, global market players.
They certainly are not peasant farmers, so are not going to view the automotive world through peasent farmers eyes
People who only keep it a few years then get rid, and have no interest in the vehicles off road ability, quality, reliability, longevity, resale value etc etc.
Nobody in their right mind would try and argue anything land rover has ever made compares to a big cruiser in terms of quality.
 
People who only keep it a few years then get rid, and have no interest in the vehicles off road ability, quality, reliability, longevity, resale value etc etc.
Nobody in their right mind would try and argue anything land rover has ever made compares to a big cruiser in terms of quality.
No, you are mixing up people who pretend to be rich whilst driving the latest toy on lease hire, and confusing them with the truly rich like so many around me that have no interest in keeping ahead of the Johnses, buy a very nice vehicle and run in untill it is old.
 

dave mountain

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Livestock Farmer
No, you are mixing up people who pretend to be rich whilst driving the latest toy on lease hire, and confusing them with the truly rich like so many around me that have no interest in keeping ahead of the Johnses, buy a very nice vehicle and run in untill it is old.
If that were true (I doubt it) then a 200 series would be a common sight. Transporters and land rovers/range rovers are the epitome of keeping up with the joneses. Most of the rich people I know drive cruisers if they actually use their vehicle and Audi q7 or similar if they just use it as a car. Was discussing this the other day and was told "range rovers are 10 a penny" and it's true when you think about it.
 

Cowabunga

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Ceredigion,Wales
No, you are mixing up people who pretend to be rich whilst driving the latest toy on lease hire, and confusing them with the truly rich like so many around me that have no interest in keeping ahead of the Johnses, buy a very nice vehicle and run in untill it is old.
You mean like my 22 year old 110, run until scrap and ditto my 1998 Cruiser Amazon.
Fact is though, while the LC is perfectly versatile and was used for work, I never found a Range Rover to be any less versatile or capable of work. I bought one new and ran it to 98,000 miles and I regret having sold it. It was a classic diesel with the rather noisy 2.4 VM engine that couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding under 2000 revs. Yet it towed 3.5 tons like a champ and fetched the cows as well as any other vehicle.

There's another mindset, the inverse of vehicle snobbery seen in some posts here, where a friend who has businesses apart from his very well run farm, has two Range Rover Sports. An old one that is now used as a general runabout and the one he's always seen it, which must be nearer 15 years old than 10. Then there's the other one that he is never seen in locally and kept hidden in his garage to be used for long journeys and fun, a supercharged V8 petrol SVA. He literally doesn't want to be seen by anyone he knows in that one unless he knows that they are not the jealous type.
 

hally

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cumbria
In your eyes, yes.
I'm in a very very affluent area, and I can assure you, Landcruiser rates below Transporter vans. Range Rovers and Tesla are the choice vehicles, followed by Transporters. Never a Toyota...the neighbours would think you had fallen on hard times:eek:
You are certainly at the posh end of Cumbria ( even the tattoos are spelt right down there )🤣
 

hally

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cumbria
Just curious but these modern land cruisers are rated only to tow 3ton, surely they are as capable in the real world of farm towing as a hilux which is rated 3.5ton, or does the softer coil springs compromise their ability with say a livestock trailer?
 

Cowabunga

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Ceredigion,Wales
Just curious but these modern land cruisers are rated only to tow 3ton, surely they are as capable in the real world of farm towing as a hilux which is rated 3.5ton, or does the softer coil springs compromise their ability with say a livestock trailer?
This is the 'small' Land Cruiser 150. The 'real' Land Cruiser can tow 3.5 tons and has either a straight six or V eight engine, designated the 80, 100, or 200 depending on age, or the Amazon in UK. Not the little 2.4 or 2.8 four cylinder unit which used to be called the Colorado in the UK but Prado in many areas. All of them are full time four wheel drive in the UK but may be part time in other territories.

I've no idea why the Prado is only rated to tow 3.0 tons, or 2.8 in some versions. They are certainly capable and do tow 3.5 tons for some people. Unlike many people with probably less experience, I don't rate the Land Cruiser 100 [Amazon] as being the best tow vehicle. It is nowhere near as stable and planted or comfortable with a box as a Range Rover or even, I'm afraid to say it, the Ford Ranger T6. In fact I would go as far as to say that when towing no more than 3 tons, I rated our Isuzu Trooper 3.1 long wheelbase as far more relaxing a drive. Not as powerful, but adequately so and a far better engine performance than the VM engine'd Range Rover I mentioned previously. The Trooper did like a drink though, possibly because its engine was indirect injection like the very early Colorado.

Remember that the old Defender also has coil springs. Must say that these did compromise the load carrying capacity of the 110 even after I uprated the rear springs. It still drove like a poorly designed boat and squatted massively with a ton in the deck. One had to drive very carefully indeed when loaded. In contrast the Ranger shrugs off a ton load and drives perfectly well. In a different league in fact. That's where leaf springs come into their own and why all serious pickups apart from the discontinued Defender and most current Navara models have leaf springs at the back.
 
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Maintaining grass quality during mid-season grazing is important. Farmers can maintain quality by entering ideal grazing covers of 1,300 – 1,500kg DM/ha, and grazing down to a residual of 4cm every rotation.

If you are now in a situation where cows are not cleaning out paddocks as well as they should be, leading to the development of steamy grass within the sward, here are some options.

Common options for rejuvenating swards include:

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