Self Sufficiency in Food

Against_the_grain

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
S.E
Its in the title for goodness sake ENVIRONMENTAL LAND MANAGEMENT. Its not exactly screaming food self sufficiency/increased productivity to me. It was a scheme designed in times of plenty and reasonably secure supplies of all sorts of goods. Perhaps too early to say but it appears that times are/just have changed.
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
I’ve just had the final delivery of essential plough parts 8 months after placing the order.
I can’t see where next years nitrogen supplies are coming from.
There is no glyphosate to be had for any money.
This is a national emergency that DEFRA could maybe just help to alleviate, not least by continuing BPS as an emergency measure to buffer farmers against the financial shocks we are trying to cope with.
But no, they are still messing about creating natural landscapes and playing to woke eco nutters who will be no help to anyone but themselves when the crunch comes.
It beggars belief. It really does. They are completely out of touch on planet WokeEcoLiberal.
 

JockCroft

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
JanDeGrootLand
I'd like to eat vegetables and fruit going forward - not lots of wheatabix.

Lets call this nutrition sustainability.
I like WEataBix too, but try taking it without milk!!!

And if retail food supply gets tight, then gov. is likely to just hand total control of food production to the Supermarkets. Then Serfdom / Slavery returns to farming. Step back 200 years.
 

Against_the_grain

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
S.E
I’ve just had the final delivery of essential plough parts 8 months after placing the order.
I can’t see where next years nitrogen supplies are coming from.
There is no glyphosate to be had for any money.
This is a national emergency that DEFRA could maybe just help to alleviate, not least by continuing BPS as an emergency measure to buffer farmers against the financial shocks we are trying to cope with.
But no, they are still messing about creating natural landscapes and playing to woke eco nutters who will be no help to anyone but themselves when the crunch comes.
It beggars belief. It really does. They are completely out of touch on planet WokeEcoLiberal.
The irony of removing the BPS (a subsidy to level out financial shocks to farmers) exactly when it has been most needed, in the last 20 years is almost comical. It was surely in place to help farmers through EXACTLY these types of situation.
 

Chris F

Staff Member
Media
Location
Hammerwich
I like WEataBix too, but try taking it without milk!!!

And if retail food supply gets tight, then gov. is likely to just hand total control of food production to the Supermarkets. Then Serfdom / Slavery returns to farming. Step back 200 years.
Sorry. I should have said dry wheatabix!
 

Humble Village Farmer

Member
BASE UK Member
Location
Essex
Well I hope you can convince folk queuing for bread that thousands of acres turned over to LNR or LR is a good idea.
I hope you can convince farmers who are already struggling to get supplies of fertilisers that DEFRA spending one more hour on this shite is a good use of government resources.
Can’t believe the complacency.
Why do you need any help from government to do what you are willingly doing anyway?

Surely if you don't like it you could stop?
 

Bald Rick

Moderator
Livestock Farmer
Location
Anglesey


Nah ....... we need MORE trees, MORE rewilding, MORE leisure space

FFS,

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MrNoo

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Cirencester
The civil servants and politicians will start taking food sufficiency seriously at about the same time that they realise that angry hungry people will string them up from lamp posts.
And Janet Hughes will still be on here trying to convince us that local nature and landscape recovery is the way forward.

None are so blind as those who dont wish to see
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Why do you need any help from government to do what you are willingly doing anyway?

Surely if you don't like it you could stop?
Why does nature need any help? If you just leave it alone it will do what its always done willingly anyway?

I might need some help if my cash flow dries up due to rocketing input prices.
Businesses don't have a money tree to draw on to pay for inept government policies that lead to input price hyper inflation.
If I and other farming businesses run out of cash we will have to stop, whether we like it or not. Then what? Import food from where?
 

Swarfmonkey

Member
Location
Hampshire
And Janet Hughes will still be on here trying to convince us that local nature and landscape recovery is the way forward.

None are so blind as those who dont wish to see

Most likely.

Perhaps a history of the food riots in a dozen countries in Africa in '07/'08 should be required reading for the DEFRA types? It might help them to see what happens when the population at large can't get the food they need.
 

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