Self sufficient

[Bury the Trash]

Yes I see what you mean , I wonder where would be best ? I wonder how the U.K. scores on self sufficiency other than food ?

i was sort of just thinking outloud to see weres best to emigrate to for the future

 

[Hilly]

i was sort of just thinking outloud to see weres best to emigrate to for the future

I think if we were talking 100% of everything self sufficient not just food , I’d gamble a fiver on Russia .

 

[ajd132]

Remember all Germans it is potatoes and sausages so it’s quite easy to keep them fed from home grown!

 

[Bury the Trash]

I think if we were talking 100% of everything self sufficient not just food , I’d gamble a fiver on Russia .

but there would be even scarier politics there and its better the devil you know
but for the mrs i wouldve gone to France back in the nineties easy to say looking back though .

 

[xmilkr]

Perhaps we could produce a little more and reduce some of that importing which would make us even better ?

Is this already happening in a way, milk up 3p a litre, could this be due to cost now to import foreign milk?

 

[Pan mixer]

They could stop importing pigmeat anytime.

 

[Hilly]

Is this already happening in a way, milk up 3p a litre, could this be due to cost now to import foreign milk?

Do, did we import milk ? Where from ?

 

[ajl]

The article seems to say that canuckistan is self sufficient in food. That is total BS. We produce lots of some things like grains and beef but import a lot of fruit and vegetables from California and Mexico. Some of that production is from domestic greenhouse as natural gas is usually cheap here. Lots of processed food come from the US midwest as well. Friend used to drive refer and he mostly hauled processed food that originated in states like Ohio and Michigan. Generally self sufficient in dairy as border is mostly closed to potential imports. Could produce more here if it wasn't for supply management being in the way as some areas have an abundance of forage.

 

[Muck Spreader]

Do, did we import milk ? Where from ?

I friend was telling me that Polish milk was on the shelves of some Tesco's in the autumn. Anyone else see it ?

 

[Ffermer Bach]

our agricultural industries have always been export driven, today we export something over 70 % of all agricultural produce, not only grain, beef & wool, but cotton, fruits, veggies, dairy etc etc

I worked on a rice farm in the Murray Irrigation Area (35 years ago) and my employer told me that Australia had been the worlds biggest exporter of rice too.

 

[xmilkr]

Do, did we import milk ? Where from ?

Its almost 20 years since l left milk but in the years previous to that we all knew about milk imports keeping our price down, l was one of many who joined a group to go on picket duty to to close tesco,asda etc main warehouses down for a night to get more for our milk, gained half pence in November lost it in December, in 1986 when the dairies and others wanted rid of the MMB milk shot up to over 26 pence a litre, twenty five years later milk hit 30 pence a litre, FOUR PENCE IN TWENTY FIVE YEARS, the last year has seen expensive import cost due to brexit, so suddenly milk goes up 3 PENCE a litre, was brexit good or bad for the dairy industry?

 

[Hilly]

Its almost 20 years since l left milk but in the years previous to that we all knew about milk imports keeping our price down, l was one of many who joined a group to go on picket duty to to close tesco,asda etc main warehouses down for a night to get more for our milk, gained half pence in November lost it in December, in 1986 when the dairies and others wanted rid of the MMB milk shot up to over 26 pence a litre, twenty five years later milk hit 30 pence a litre, FOUR PENCE IN TWENTY FIVE YEARS, the last year has seen expensive import cost due to brexit, so suddenly milk goes up 3 PENCE a litre, was brexit good or bad for the dairy industry?

I didn’t know milk was imported .

 

[M-J-G]

We'd be a lot more self sufficient in food if we didn't throw so much away.
I read several times that we waste around a third of the food that we buy.
Take that along with all the excess food that's eaten by fat people, we would be a lot closer to supplying our own needs.

 

[Hilly]

We'd be a lot more self sufficient in food if we didn't throw so much away.
I read several times that we waste around a third of the food that we buy.
Take that along with all the excess food that's eaten by fat people, we would be a lot closer to supplying our own needs.

I produce it to sell , if they want to waste half after they have bought it It’s all good for me as Ethel come back for more quicker imagine if they used 100% prices would be half

 

[M-J-G]

I produce it to sell , if they want to waste half after they have bought it It’s all good for me as Ethel come back for more quicker imagine if they used 100% prices would be half

Right OK, you make a very good point!

 

[Hilly]

Right OK, you make a very good point!

I always do thanks.

 

[Swarfmonkey]

We'd be a lot more self sufficient in food if we didn't throw so much away.
I read several times that we waste around a third of the food that we buy.
Take that along with all the excess food that's eaten by fat people, we would be a lot closer to supplying our own needs.

Gotta be a little careful when looking at the official figures for food waste as the definition used by government is a bit tricksy (“any food, and inedible parts of food, removed from the food supply chain") and will be massively inflating the amount of what a normal person would consider to be food waste.

Stick a spout stalk in the black bin that goes to landfill (even though it's inedible) and it's "food waste". Turn wool into a jumper or insulation and it's "food waste". Bale straw and flog it to a company that uses it as a component in the production of enviroboard and it's "food waste".

 

[M-J-G]

Gotta be a little careful when looking at the official figures for food waste as the definition used by government is a bit tricksy (“any food, and inedible parts of food, removed from the food supply chain") and will be massively inflating the amount of what a normal person would consider to be food waste.

Stick a spout stalk in the black bin that goes to landfill (even though it's inedible) and it's "food waste". Turn wool into a jumper or insulation and it's "food waste". Bale straw and flog it to a company that uses it as a component in the production of enviroboard and it's "food waste".

Of course some food is inedible, from what I've read its 30% of what food is bought is thrown out, not of what's grown.

I don't believe they are that accurate, but I'm not sure that those calculations will include straw and wool, if they did it would be much higher because grain grown for animal feed etc. would be included too...

 

[Swarfmonkey]

Ask the average man on the street what food waste is, and I can all but guarantee that they'll not think of inedible parts of food as being food waste. Mind you, it could be argued that even perfectly edible food that's chucked into the food waste bin that then goes to AD and ultimately back to the land technically isn't food waste, if you stick to the official definition.

As I said before, it's all a bit tricksy.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

The "best before date" is also there to give you a hand, @Hilly

the downside is that much more product needs to be that much cheaper at your end,, because the ones in the middle pulling the wires, they won't go short