Selling a plot on your boundary

[Doing it for the kids]

Hoping to go under offer for a building plot on our boundary for a single dwelling soon. Own access so no real interaction likely.

I need to give thought to condition etc. All I can think of is their right to light and who will own the boundary and who should maintain it.

What other things should I try to get on the sale which in 5 yrs I wish I had done!?

TYIA

 

[organicguy]

Unable to object to farming operations nearby

 

[teslacoils]

Surface water. Future building close to boundary. You want boundary.

 

[Doing it for the kids]

Unable to object to farming operations nearby

It will only ever be agriculture

Surface water. Future building close to boundary. You want boundary.

Mains drains I think, not sure I’m too worried about more building, think I will put up a fence on the inside of the hedge

 

[Adeptandy]

Them planting trees on/close to the boundary and causing a shadow or root ingress on your patch

 

[Yale]

No access through boundary like those little gates folk put in.

 

[puppet]

The new owner will usually be responsible for the boundary. I am sure your solicitor will be able to advise you on all the usual conditions such as no poisonous plants, access rights, etc

 

[Kidds]

It will only ever be agriculture

Yes but you have to say it so they can’t complain about you farming there, especially noise smell etc. So if/when they do complain just point them to the condition.
No running a business from the site
No storage of caravans and or scrap cars
Retain right to use any existing services (drains as well as anything else)
Not to cause nuisance (this covers constant bonfires etc)
No structure higher than 2m within 1m of boundary.
Put overage on it if there’s a slightest chance you can fit another dwelling in there.

 

[Still Farming]

If ever sold or redeveloped you get %
Ransom strips.
Pony paddocks joining.
Water,phone electric,sewerage connections?
Got to be stacks of things to line up so if anything happens in the future your in the driving seat NOT them?

 

[Av Gorritt]

Unless you are seriously short of money -- don't do it ! It might all go well if , for instance , you get on well with your buyer , but what if he sells it ? Hedge trimmings ( and worse ) over the boundary wall . Your animals ate my prize rose tree etc, etc . You only need to look back at the recent and not so recent threads to see the possible , and likely ,pitfalls ahead . You can put all the conditions you like in the contract , but if he just ignores them , then the ball will be well and truly in your court !

 

[GeorgeK]

If you put up a fence on your side of the hedge, sooner or later they will pull the hedge out, extend their bit and use your fence as their boundary. Make sure the boundary is well defined and recorded so it is easy to resolve disputes if they try to move it. It should be their responsibility to keep it stock proof.

 

[Av Gorritt]

And also , forgot to mention a practical issue . If you sell a plot then you will probably create a couple of re-entrants in the boundary fence , and that's where your stock will find the loophole , usually this will be Sunday afternoon - during the only couple of hours in the week that you get to relax .

 

[Av Gorritt]

If you put up a fence on your side of the hedge, sooner or later they will pull the hedge out, extend their bit and use your fence as their boundary. Make sure the boundary is well defined and recorded so it is easy to resolve disputes if they try to move it. It should be their responsibility to keep it stock proof.

We have two fields like that , bordering a new(ish) development . There were all the restrictions put in the house deeds about not making a gateway into the field , and acceptance of the responsibility for their boundary fence etc. I see now that just about all of them have put a small wicket gate in so that they can practice their golf shots , free run their dogs , in fact treat it as their back field . And of course the gates are usually scrappy little things that let all our cattle into their garden , giving cause for damages for plant damage and restoration . Naturally , maintenance of their boundary is now our responsibility ( fence against your own livestock and all that ) We also have another , where , after grumbles about stock eating their plants . We put our own fence four feet from their boundary , and before very long they pulled down their wall , and planted up to our fence ! You might think from all the foregoing that I'm not a great lover of a lot of neighbours . Yo'd be right !

 

[graham99]

Yes but you have to say it so they can’t complain about you farming there, especially noise smell etc. So if/when they do complain just point them to the condition.
No running a business from the site
No storage of caravans and or scrap cars
Retain right to use any existing services (drains as well as anything else)
Not to cause nuisance (this covers constant bonfires etc)
No structure higher than 2m within 1m of boundary.
Put overage on it if there’s a slightest chance you can fit another dwelling in there.

and if you can get some one ,
to pay asking price and
do all of the above ,
you do not want them next door to you
they will be fools .
this is a big problem in kiwi land ,
people telling other people what to do with their own land.
the only winner's are lawyer's.
and another thing ,
make sure you can afford a better lawyer than them

 

[puppet]

You have all the deeds but no action. If they are responsible for the boundary then certainly no damages due for livestock entering. If they complained then put 3 strands of barb along the original boundary. Give them a date when the wall will be demolished as it is on your land.
You need to draw a line. If you upset them what will they do to annoy you even more?

 

[Kidds]

and if you can get some one ,
to pay asking price and
do all of the above ,
you do not want them next door to you
they will be fools .
this is a big problem in kiwi land ,
people telling other people what to do with their own land.
the only winner's are lawyer's.
and another thing ,
make sure you can afford a better lawyer than them

Standard terms here
Both my nearest neighbours have these terms and we get on fine.

 

[GeorgeK]

Local farmer had a row of houses that extended their gardens by filling in his ditch. The houses are now prone to flooding, and they want him to do something about it!

 

[GeorgeK]

We have two fields like that , bordering a new(ish) development . There were all the restrictions put in the house deeds about not making a gateway into the field , and acceptance of the responsibility for their boundary fence etc. I see now that just about all of them have put a small wicket gate in so that they can practice their golf shots , free run their dogs , in fact treat it as their back field . And of course the gates are usually scrappy little things that let all our cattle into their garden , giving cause for damages for plant damage and restoration . Naturally , maintenance of their boundary is now our responsibility ( fence against your own livestock and all that ) We also have another , where , after grumbles about stock eating their plants . We put our own fence four feet from their boundary , and before very long they pulled down their wall , and planted up to our fence ! You might think from all the foregoing that I'm not a great lover of a lot of neighbours . Yo'd be right !

So we're all in agreement then, precast concrete panel wall, minimum height 4m. Some days I think if I had the money, that's how I'd have all my boundaries done. And dug in a couple of meters too, then throw all the burrowing creatures over

 

[kiwi pom]

We have two fields like that , bordering a new(ish) development . There were all the restrictions put in the house deeds about not making a gateway into the field , and acceptance of the responsibility for their boundary fence etc. I see now that just about all of them have put a small wicket gate in so that they can practice their golf shots , free run their dogs , in fact treat it as their back field . And of course the gates are usually scrappy little things that let all our cattle into their garden , giving cause for damages for plant damage and restoration . Naturally , maintenance of their boundary is now our responsibility ( fence against your own livestock and all that ) We also have another , where , after grumbles about stock eating their plants . We put our own fence four feet from their boundary , and before very long they pulled down their wall , and planted up to our fence ! You might think from all the foregoing that I'm not a great lover of a lot of neighbours . Yo'd be right !

Apologies if i'm reading this wrong but if all the rules are set and are just being broken, don't you just need to enforce them?

 

[kiwi pom]

Yes but you have to say it so they can’t complain about you farming there, especially noise smell etc. So if/when they do complain just point them to the condition.
No running a business from the site
No storage of caravans and or scrap cars
Retain right to use any existing services (drains as well as anything else)
Not to cause nuisance (this covers constant bonfires etc)
No structure higher than 2m within 1m of boundary.
Put overage on it if there’s a slightest chance you can fit another dwelling in there.

So basically you can control anything they do but they have no say with anything you may do, or any right to complain?
Crikey do people really spend hundreds of thousands to live like that?

The old chap recently bought a bit of the neighbours field (not far from you, can see Beeston castle from the garden) It was just to square up the property and he also paid for all the legal stuff.
Pretty sure there's no major clauses. He bought it, gave the asking price and the neighbour is happy, he wouldn't have done it if there'd have been uplift conditions etc.