contact Thomas at Gentle farming and he will take you though it, the certification process is pretty simple, online questions and checks.
Selling carbon credits
- Thread starter Phil P
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contact Thomas at Gentle farming and he will take you though it, the certification process is pretty simple, online questions and checks.
- Location
- Welshpool Powys
Where does the upland permanent grassland men fit in with all this as they haven’t been ploughing and ‘supposedly’ releasing carbon from their soils and depleting soil OM over the last 60-70 years?
- Location
- Scottish Highlands
I suspect you’ll have none, unless you go organic.
- Location
- North West
Are you receiving £50/t though or is that what they are selling the C at? According to the website the farmer receives approximately £25-30 C/t which means they are taking £20-25/t or £68-85/ha (working on 3.4t/ha in you case) just in costs. Seems like some else is taking a big cut while you do all the work/take all the risk yet again. I could be a mile out on this though.
Selling at £50. But there are obviously costs in doing so and you only sell 80% of what you have to provide safe margin under ISO
I think the website is purposely cautious as does not want to over promise, this is year 1 and there has been a steep learning curve getting this far, it’s not perfect but it’s getting better all the time
Like all product prices it’s set by supply vs demand ……….have to start somewhere
Um didnt red tractor say that at the beginning, if there is money to be had you can bet the leeches will be put in for force.
think I’m negative actually but as I say I’m not a buyer, that’s for far wealthier companies than mine
red tractor have never delivered me a premium in their 20 years if they had I would have no issue whatsoever with them - frankly they define failure in cereals production
Gentle Farming will deliver me a significant premium in the first year
spot the difference here ? The leaches will only mess this up if we allow them ! Let’s keep idiots like red tractor and the NFU as far from this as humanly possible !
- Location
- North West
Still seems like they want a big cut for you doing all the leg work and providing all the evidence etc! I can’t deny it all sounds like a money for old rope scheme but as usual we’ll be the ones getting told what we get paid after someone else has had their cut and getting rich off our yard work. Be no different to the chem/fert merchants
Still seems like they want a big cut for you doing all the leg work and providing all the evidence etc! I can’t deny it all sounds like a money for old rope scheme but as usual we’ll be the ones getting told what we get paid after someone else has had their cut and getting rich off our yard work. Be no different to the chem/fert merchants
try doing it yourself? Not just the getting a platform ISO certified but finding buyers to part with cash for something they don’t HAVE to buy
costs are around the 10-15% mark in reality which given the complexity and work involved isn’t bad, I’ve paid auctioneers more for a few moments work before !
Yep 20 years, red tractor claimed at the start it would provide a premium.
I'm not saying it's not a good idea, but the cynical side of me thinks we need to be careful we dont put another noose round our neck, what starts out as a niche market providing as USP and even an income can suddenly turn into yet another cost . How long before red tractor adds it to the list of things we HAVE to do ?
How many things that were meant to be good suddenly become bad , diesel cars, burning wood, out of town shopping centres etc etc.
- Location
- North West
I hope it works out, I suppose someone has to be first! Although I was discussing this with someone on Tuesday and I was told not to rush into selling carbon credits just yet as there’s big news on the horizon, however they didn’t say what that news was
- Location
- South Molton
How many credits can you sell if like last year crops weren't planted and the soil left bare.
Hand in pocket time?
Even 80% don't cut it then
I wish you luck. But I suspect none of us is truly carbon neutral. Inputs, transport of inputs, machinery, fuel etc. The human race just has to accept the fact that life is polluting. That's not to say that we shouldn't do our best for the environment. I find big business salving its conscience by aligning itself with a "green " industry such as ours morally wrong. Consumers need to accept these facts - business needs to accept responsibility for it's own carbon footprint.
Cab-over Pete
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- Location
- Kenilworth, Warwickshire
Will the land still need lime?
Just wondering…,
Just wondering…,
- Location
- Welshpool Powys
Yes indeed delivered by your carbon neutral vehicle
- Location
- South Molton
I personally think the value is in attachment to the product we are selling with a financial value.
Selling it to the biggest polluters is just supporting bad practice.
You have to have ethics. This process doesn't, you have no say to whom it is traded
- Location
- Welshpool Powys
No ones answered my question are grassland based farmers going to be able to do this?
Government incentives to sequester carbon yet cut a huge swathe through the middle of the UK which is HS2.
Doesn’t make sense either economically or ethically.
Government incentives to sequester carbon yet cut a huge swathe through the middle of the UK which is HS2.
Doesn’t make sense either economically or ethically.
- Location
- Shropshire
I’ll let you know. I’m going to ring them this week to find out.