Sequesting carbon

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Ok after listening to a podcast today Aussi ranches are requesting carbon for microsoft, so can anyone fill me in on how to get hooked up to a company ho would pay me for the "use of land" to sequester carbon in the uk. I see big business banging on about how kind to the environment they are being by offsetting there own dirty footprint on a nice piece of unspoilt land, who arranges these transactions ? how much land do you need? is anyone on the forum involved in any projects like this ? BTH they also said that feedlot beef produced massive amounts of co2 but that cows allowed to roam free had a tiny carbon footprint and that because the helped build up the sold structure with dung they actually helped the situation .. finally someone with a wide eye on the job :) Thought? P.s im not trying to do this i just though it might be a topic the forum could do with ?

doing it already

www.gentle-farming.com

not looking for additional farms yet and when there is demand for more only those farming in ways that sequester and store maximum C whilst benefiting ecosystem
 

delilah

Member
Someone needs to explain to me how any farmer can be anti Red Tractor, anti corporate control of the NFU, anti farmer subservience to input suppliers, yet pro carbon trading. Because I'm clearly missing something.
 

Muddyroads

Member
NFFN Member
Location
Exeter, Devon
Part of this farm used to be continually arable, cereals, potatoes, sugar beet etc. The last but one tenant described how he worked It extremely hard. For the last 14 years it’s been organic, primarily grass including 10 years HLS arable reversion. Just had some soil tests back. Sandy loam, with 26% clay. Carbon content is just 0.9%. Surely it couldn’t have been much lower than this 14 years ago, could it? What rate of annual sequestration could I expect?
 

britt

Member
BASE UK Member
Bill Gates investment fund is trying to buy private jet firm signature aviation just as he’s finished writing a book on how to avert climate disaster. It’s bollox with a capital B,
Perhaps if he closes it down (and starts another in another name) he can claim carbon credits for the CO2 that the company is no longer emitting.
That really would be a great trick to pull off.
Could they really be that cynical.
 

Lincsman

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Perhaps if he closes it down (and starts another in another name) he can claim carbon credits for the CO2 that the company is no longer emitting.
That really would be a great trick to pull off.
Could they really be that cynical.
Good idea, do the same by changing tractors.
 

egbert

Member
Livestock Farmer
The thing is, there's enough muppets on here who are going to take the filthy lucre to make it all seem ok.

on yer bike @delilah .

Do you think I'm a muppet?
If the deal is right, I'll take it. It doesn't mean I believe it'll save the world.

As it happens, @The Seeker , I'm quite involved in a carbon sequestering/storage whizz right now.
There's some tens of thousands of tonnes involved, and potentially more being continually grabbed and stored.
The farmers concerned -inc me- are starting to get ansty...where's the money?
...........cos it's only talk so far.

Now I'm pretty sure the scheme, although it's one of the very few I can see that'll potentially take carbon and keep it safe for some time, isn't ultimately defendable.
(certainly not for millions of years, which is what we should be thinking.)
But more pointedly, its not clear the peasants concerned are going to be rewarded in a commensurate manner.
So i might be carefully advocating against it yet.

As @farmerm eloquently pointed out, it's hooey. (but I don't see why we mightn't line our pockets meantime)
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
The thing is, there's enough muppets on here who are going to take the filthy lucre to make it all seem ok.

How very big of you. Most of us can’t afford to live a life of moral perfection and are business minded enough to discuss and exploit a fledgling market for environmental goods.
 

delilah

Member
How very big of you. Most of us can’t afford to live a life of moral perfection and are business minded enough to discuss and exploit a fledgling market for environmental goods.

Which is absolutely fine, so long as no-one signing up for this then continues to moan about being under the thumb of global corporations.
 

delilah

Member
That’s a fair point(y)

I worry at the speed at which all of this is happening under the radar. There is currently a national debate taking place with regards GE technology. It may or may not be adopted, but whatever happens we will all accept that it went through due process. Carbon trading will be as fundamental in its impact on UK ag as GE technology. There should be a national moratorium to allow a full debate to take place.
 

delilah

Member
on yer bike @delilah .

Do you think I'm a muppet?

lol. Yup.
From the day they announced it, I have been saying on here that the NFU should scrap their 'net zero by 2040' target. Net zero will be for the next generation of farmers, what Red Tractor has been for this generation. A stick to be hit with.
Net zero and carbon trading are two sides of the same coin.
Every individual farmers who signs up for carbon trading, is sucking the entire industry into net zero.
As said, it needs the pause button hitting right now. National moratorium. Industry wide debate.

So i might be carefully advocating against it yet.
So, no, not a muppet lol.
 

egbert

Member
Livestock Farmer
lol. Yup.
From the day they announced it, I have been saying on here that the NFU should scrap their 'net zero by 2040' target. Net zero will be for the next generation of farmers, what Red Tractor has been for this generation. A stick to be hit with.
Net zero and carbon trading are two sides of the same coin.
Every individual farmers who signs up for carbon trading, is sucking the entire industry into net zero.
As said, it needs the pause button hitting right now. National moratorium. Industry wide debate.


So, no, not a muppet lol.

the whole concept is currently mis-direction whitewash. Meanwhile, I've a responsibility to my immediate nearest and dearest
 

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