Chae1
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- Location
- Aberdeenshire
No hurler fluoxypr. Paying 6.90 per litre for CTL
Serviced agronomists, do they take advantage of the customer?
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ollie989898
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I always thought that companies should run a 'BASIS course for spray operators' delivered over a day a week during the winter or something. 5 or 6 days and a folder of notes should be enough to get people familiar with the basics.
- Location
- Bedfordshire
Sorry wasn’t clear on re reading
Spencer
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- Location
- North West
Cheers.. paying 6.20 for Ctl here, was thinking £9/litre was stiff...
- Location
- West Midlands
Exactly what i'm looking for.
ollie989898
Member
To be fair, you could collar an agronomist in the winter to run through this or get a group of like-minded souls together and ask your local distributor to run a course, for a fee of course.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
I don't have my facts or basis. Not really interested in keeping up with the cpd.
ollie989898
Member
You can do the course and just run with that. As a farmer I was under the impression you didn't need to worry about the CPD?
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Yeah, I'm supposed to be doing basis this autumn. Knowing my luck I'll fail it.
- Location
- Shropshire
You only need 20 points to you to stay on register doing your own farm. You can then just change to 50 if you wish to do other farms on future.
Trials days are worth 4 points each, Nroso 10 point meeting is worth 4 basis points. 2 points here. Fairly easy to get 20
- Location
- East yorks
Going to see if I can have a go at basis this autumn if there is space. Need to book the days off work for it.
You'll have the best teachers in the country if you're doing it at Riseholme
I had chris Tolley and Simon Goodger who wee excellent
matttargett4
Member
No you wont!
matttargett4
Member
I did it last year at hauc, can you call it that now?
Yes it's a fair test, yes there were a few who failed but in hindsight I'm very glad I did it and I think all those involved in crop production should do it, yes the idea of active you can't pronounce is intimidating but spending time in that environment and only talking about that for 3 weeks it's amazing what you pick up. With regard to crops you don't grow, yes it's a bit foreign, no you wont use it but actually if you take an interest the production systems for potatoes etc are fascinating.
I've reduced chem use on my farm and saved money as a result but the biggest thing for me is as a dairy farmer / contractor when I walk round a bit of wheat before breakfast I forget that the polish are having a civil war in the parlour or half my trailer drivers didn't turn up yesterday and enjoy what I'm looking at and the exercise.
Just do it, if I can anybody can
If you want to forget your problems @teslacoils by coming down and sort the polish out daily drop me a PM!
Yes it's a fair test, yes there were a few who failed but in hindsight I'm very glad I did it and I think all those involved in crop production should do it, yes the idea of active you can't pronounce is intimidating but spending time in that environment and only talking about that for 3 weeks it's amazing what you pick up. With regard to crops you don't grow, yes it's a bit foreign, no you wont use it but actually if you take an interest the production systems for potatoes etc are fascinating.
I've reduced chem use on my farm and saved money as a result but the biggest thing for me is as a dairy farmer / contractor when I walk round a bit of wheat before breakfast I forget that the polish are having a civil war in the parlour or half my trailer drivers didn't turn up yesterday and enjoy what I'm looking at and the exercise.
Just do it, if I can anybody can
If you want to forget your problems @teslacoils by coming down and sort the polish out daily drop me a PM!
Big Pharma - offspring of Petro-Chem x Synthetic Soil - has been trying to by-pass the farm manager and take control of all chemi-field operations for years in order to milk our farm profits. That's why they invented the 'basis' and other courses, to ensure only they are qualified to make field spray decisions.
We have allowed them to take over out of laziness or neglect, and find it all too easy to let them park their 4x4 chariots in arable gateways whilst they do a quick walk to decide what to instruct us to spray next. By controlling the supply chain and manipulating prices, they make sure of their returns and, like Mr Supermarket, know we will just about survive on the Single Farm Payment.
When I asked an arable baron how come they have found glyphos in german beer (malting barley?) and then german bread (milling wheat) if it breaks down in soil overwinter, I was told Big Pharma was telling cereal growers to spray it on the ears before harvest so that there are no blockages or risk of green ears, i.e. an extension of the glyphos sales period !!
Have we the guts to say 'ban it as too dangerous to our own consumers' and 'stuff SFP's - abolish all subsidies and associated red tape so we get our income from the market place'? Get the wide cultivator out and scuffle false seedbeds - a chem-free entry for direct drilling - or chip the stubble over with a shallow plough pass to invert weed seeds like grandfather did. We might not need to rely on those ballon-funded giant tractors then and if yields are lower, quality will be higher as will prices per tonne. Time we took charge, got down on our own knees and identified our own weed seedlings.
I've just had a guy photo my stubble with an app which robotically tells him which weed it is. Wow! The last un-independant pharma guy had to take an orache weed away for identification and wasn't that expensive to zap!!
Will the public prefer to eat poison-free home-grown food and avoid paying hidden food subsidies? I'd sure not need to rant about poisons and still feel happy to pay for independent agonomist advice.
Soilgrub
We have allowed them to take over out of laziness or neglect, and find it all too easy to let them park their 4x4 chariots in arable gateways whilst they do a quick walk to decide what to instruct us to spray next. By controlling the supply chain and manipulating prices, they make sure of their returns and, like Mr Supermarket, know we will just about survive on the Single Farm Payment.
When I asked an arable baron how come they have found glyphos in german beer (malting barley?) and then german bread (milling wheat) if it breaks down in soil overwinter, I was told Big Pharma was telling cereal growers to spray it on the ears before harvest so that there are no blockages or risk of green ears, i.e. an extension of the glyphos sales period !!
Have we the guts to say 'ban it as too dangerous to our own consumers' and 'stuff SFP's - abolish all subsidies and associated red tape so we get our income from the market place'? Get the wide cultivator out and scuffle false seedbeds - a chem-free entry for direct drilling - or chip the stubble over with a shallow plough pass to invert weed seeds like grandfather did. We might not need to rely on those ballon-funded giant tractors then and if yields are lower, quality will be higher as will prices per tonne. Time we took charge, got down on our own knees and identified our own weed seedlings.
I've just had a guy photo my stubble with an app which robotically tells him which weed it is. Wow! The last un-independant pharma guy had to take an orache weed away for identification and wasn't that expensive to zap!!
Will the public prefer to eat poison-free home-grown food and avoid paying hidden food subsidies? I'd sure not need to rant about poisons and still feel happy to pay for independent agonomist advice.
Soilgrub
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warksfarmer
Member
What bull crap did he come up with to try to get out of it and obviously you’ve given him his marching orders as it will be on every product and you’ll of applied stuff that’s not needed.