Set Up Shop In The EU

will l

Member
Arable Farmer
MH. I appreciate your sense of balance and moderation. But it is important to hold our politicians for account. Why - well not always to score points, though I appreciate that is how such actions will appear and be reported and considered by 'the other side'. No, they must be held to account as they will make future decisions. And thus where something happens that turns out different to what was forecast or is reported at the time we have a duty to challenge as how can we trust what they are doing today. Brushing these things under the carpet leads to future failures.
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Martin Holden

Member
Trade
Location
Cheltenham
Thinking how you move forward, imo, you need to see why it went wrong in the past.
You said, that you can’t sell uk farm machinery because there isn’t any. Now, I’ve heard lots of complaints (not from you) that all uk woes are down to the EU, including the demise of uk industry.
Well, if I accept that, why is it I easily run my farm on machinery still manufacturered in France, Germany and Italy when they have all been members for a lot longer than the U.K.?

Happy Sunday, still working with the cattle🤷‍♂️
That’s a good question. My career long considered opinion is that the British machinery manufacturers never on the whole embraced “international marketing”. They made a product that was not developed and adjusted to suit other markets and we didn’t speak their language either. We always did and to a large extent expect people to speak English if they want to do business with us! Slightly arrogant stance. I’ve dealt with so many folk from all over Europe and guess what? They all speak English! By contrast, we don’t. I know it’s easier for all other nations to learn one language and English is the one of choice. I’d need to re learn Francaise, and start all over again with German, Swedish, Slovenian, Danish, Italian and Polish! Two of my grandchildren speak fairly fluent Italian (mums Italian) and English. Lucky girls! Back to machinery - we have the knowledge just lack the inclination! We did have factories here, MF, IH but they went to France and Austria
 

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
My career long considered opinion is that the British machinery manufacturers never on the whole embraced “international marketing”. They made a product that was not developed and adjusted to suit other markets
Are you saying that British machinery has never been successfully marketed in the rest of the world
 

Ashtree

Member
Moggie’s fifty year horizon for destination Sunny Upland, looking more and more ambitious by the hour.
Still, what’s a century or three on the Mogg timescale?
 

czechmate

Member
Mixed Farmer
That’s a good question. My career long considered opinion is that the British machinery manufacturers never on the whole embraced “international marketing”. They made a product that was not developed and adjusted to suit other markets and we didn’t speak their language either. We always did and to a large extent expect people to speak English if they want to do business with us! Slightly arrogant stance. I’ve dealt with so many folk from all over Europe and guess what? They all speak English! By contrast, we don’t. I know it’s easier for all other nations to learn one language and English is the one of choice. I’d need to re learn Francaise, and start all over again with German, Swedish, Slovenian, Danish, Italian and Polish! Two of my grandchildren speak fairly fluent Italian (mums Italian) and English. Lucky girls! Back to machinery - we have the knowledge just lack the inclination! We did have factories here, MF, IH but they went to France and Austria


On a similar theme, I had a double link with Weetabix (we were very close to them).
I was gobsmacked when the company secretary, who lived in our village, said Weetabix had been sold to the Chinese.
Such a common theme 🤷‍♂️
 

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
It was years ago but with a few exceptions no, not anymore. There are a few stalwarts around for sure but look at the number in Ireland and then ask yourself, why/how do they do it and we don’t?
Don't know, perhaps if inporting kit and parts for it is going to be more expensive and difficult then perhaps we will start to make our own more and export may follow, who knows.
People say we don't make much here anymore but do you remember when they lined up all the vehicles we make on an episode of top gear, seem to recall there being quite a few, yep some would use imported components but still better than a poke in the eye with a blunt stick
 

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