Share farming/ contract farming sheep

Al R

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Livestock Farmer
Location
West Wales
I was asked to share farm with sheep on some land that I’d rented for 6 years previous and the new owner said he wanted to share farm. I declined saying I already had the sheep and I didn’t see how he brought anything to the table except for land. He had no experience what so ever and no interest in doing any of the work.

with the right person it could work if they are equally minded and your possibly restricted with funds so need their collateral to part fund it. I don’t see many land owners going out in the depths of mid winter to jab a ewe, sort lambs, pull rottens or any other task which isn’t shown on the telly or by the shepherdlessers 🤷🏻‍♂️
 

unlacedgecko

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Livestock Farmer
I was asked to share farm with sheep on some land that I’d rented for 6 years previous and the new owner said he wanted to share farm. I declined saying I already had the sheep and I didn’t see how he brought anything to the table except for land. He had no experience what so ever and no interest in doing any of the work.

with the right person it could work if they are equally minded and your possibly restricted with funds so need their collateral to part fund it. I don’t see many land owners going out in the depths of mid winter to jab a ewe, sort lambs, pull rottens or any other task which isn’t shown on the telly or by the shepherdlessers 🤷🏻‍♂️

As a committed member of the shepherdlesser cult, I resent that. I spend winter outside either on a quad bike or in the pens.

Don't do any winter lambing though.
 

Al R

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Livestock Farmer
Location
West Wales
As a committed member of the shepherdlesser cult, I resent that. I spend winter outside either on a quad bike or in the pens.

Don't do any winter lambing though.
The shepherdlesser cult was originally named after the ones who spent 80% of the working day on Instagram and associated sites posting about their days wasn’t it? glorifying how beautiful it is to work outside with sheep and how everything is cute and cuddly 🤷🏻‍♂️
 

unlacedgecko

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Livestock Farmer
The shepherdlesser cult was originally named after the ones who spent 80% of the working day on Instagram and associated sites posting about their days wasn’t it? glorifying how beautiful it is to work outside with sheep and how everything is cute and cuddly 🤷🏻‍♂️
Oh.

I thought it was a @Agrivator slur applied to those who run shedding sheep/sheep with easier care characteristics.
 
Remember share farming is often just a way for a landowner to remain active farmer. Often the share farming is just you paying the rent in a convoluted way and farming the sheep as you normally could.

I have some share farming ideas I’d like to try with someone but would require the right person. I think it could work though! Just need to find someone with access to a decent block of ground, a good head and who can’t afford (but wants to farm) 500-2000 high genetic merit ewe lambs.
 

BAF

Member
Livestock Farmer
Remember share farming is often just a way for a landowner to remain active farmer. Often the share farming is just you paying the rent in a convoluted way and farming the sheep as you normally could.

I have some share farming ideas I’d like to try with someone but would require the right person. I think it could work though! Just need to find someone with access to a decent block of ground, a good head and who can’t afford (but wants to farm) 500-2000 high genetic merit ewe lambs.
I mean I've got access to circa 22 acres so you know...I'm kind of big time. I could stretch to 2000 ewes. They wouldn't be able to turn round but at least they'd be warm 😂
 

No wot

Member
I was asked to share farm with sheep on some land that I’d rented for 6 years previous and the new owner said he wanted to share farm. I declined saying I already had the sheep and I didn’t see how he brought anything to the table except for land. He had no experience what so ever and no interest in doing any of the work.

with the right person it could work if they are equally minded and your possibly restricted with funds so need their collateral to part fund it. I don’t see many land owners going out in the depths of mid winter to jab a ewe, sort lambs, pull rottens or any other task which isn’t shown on the telly or by the shepherdlessers 🤷🏻‍♂️
would it be a 50 / 50 split , shepherd does all the work and landowners get all the money , 🤣
 

hendrebc

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Livestock Farmer
I was asked to share farm with sheep on some land that I’d rented for 6 years previous and the new owner said he wanted to share farm. I declined saying I already had the sheep and I didn’t see how he brought anything to the table except for land. He had no experience what so ever and no interest in doing any of the work.

with the right person it could work if they are equally minded and your possibly restricted with funds so need their collateral to part fund it. I don’t see many land owners going out in the depths of mid winter to jab a ewe, sort lambs, pull rottens or any other task which isn’t shown on the telly or by the shepherdlessers 🤷🏻‍♂️
Isn't that the whole point of share farming though? One supplies rhe land and the other supplies everything else. The land is rhe important bit you can't do anything without it.
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Oh.

I thought it was a @Agrivator slur applied to those who run shedding sheep/sheep with easier care characteristics.

Wear the badge with pride.👍


The shepherdlesser cult was originally named after the ones who spent 80% of the working day on Instagram and associated sites posting about their days wasn’t it? glorifying how beautiful it is to work outside with sheep and how everything is cute and cuddly 🤷🏻‍♂️

I thought they were the ‘collycuddlers’, shepherdlessers being as above?😂
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Isn't that the whole point of share farming though? One supplies rhe land and the other supplies everything else. The land is rhe important bit you can't do anything without it.

^this. The sharing of profits, after the ‘contractor’s charge’ is taken, is where the agreement would be likely to fall down most years I would think.
 
How many of you chap's who either begrudge a land owner a cut of the profits or think you have the right to rent it for circa £30 an acre, would go out and spend £10,000 on an acre of ground and then let it for £30 to some hero who'd just gone and spent £20 on a screw old hill ewe off the side of a mountain to keep on it, who then turns round and bad mouths you because you don't deserve a return on your investment.
 

Electricfencer

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Cotswolds
How many of you chap's who either begrudge a land owner a cut of the profits or think you have the right to rent it for circa £30 an acre, would go out and spend £10,000 on an acre of ground and then let it for £30 to some hero who'd just gone and spent £20 on a screw old hill ewe off the side of a mountain to keep on it, who then turns round and bad mouths you because you don't deserve a return on your investment.
It works much better in my opinion if you let them “farm” the sheep for a couple of years, you just do the contract work and charge them proper rates. After a couple of years they soon think the £30 acre you offered them originally was a hell of a good deal for them.
 

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