Share shape

[MrNoo]

Why do shares have the notch/wing when viewed from above? I have seen plenty of flash looking rear shares that the Ransomes boys fit to do their 2nd run and also their finish run, why do we not infill these notches/wings and use them all the time not just the 2nd and last run?
The notch/wing provides what? lift the soil slightly to then guide it up the board? It obviously cuts/shears the soil to provide the upper face of the furrow slice and leave the furrow bottom in a certain state and also gives us the hinge about which the slice rotates but the gap behind the wing does what? Nothing in my simple view?
Also do some of these modified shares have a plate underneath to smooth the furrow bottom on the 2nd run and also the finish as having kept an eye of some people whilst ploughing and their mid work furrow bottoms are not polished like their finish or 2nd run. Obviously soil type has a bearing on this to a degree and running the plough on it's tail/less pitch on the point would affect this also.
Photo of an insert I am doing for mine.

 

[arcobob]

I used to use a special share for the finish, wider with the notch filled in. I used the same for the opening but found that it could ride the plough out on the second run. Now I use 8" shares for the opening to save running on the mouldboard wing and a 61/2" share on the finish, which is what I use in the middle work. I run an extra long top link on the finish, perhaps about 1/4" or so longer than normal. I must warn that I am still experimenting

 

[MrNoo]

So it's an avenue worth exploring then, this is on an 8" Lea boarded plough, shares are 6 1/4 wide, just thought rather than filling in the notch on one share and having 3 shares, 2 standard and one modified, easier to just fill in the notch on both shares and use them for the lot, start finish and mid work. I will stick it in the ground and see how it goes then (if it ever dries up enough!!)
And the polished furrow bottom on the 2nd run and finish, any pointers? Or is it just run it on it's tail and let the standard share do the work (I feel that the underside of a Fergie share would need some meat welding onto it possibly)

 

[Ley253]

Is it worth the effort? As soon as they are noticed, they will be banned!

 

[MrNoo]

Is it worth the effort? As soon as they are noticed, they will be banned!

It's either playing with my plough or Christmas shopping!!! Who knows, they dont seem to be banned in other classes so why ours? I guess it's all about learning, agreed it's only some old Fergie Lea plough but the principles are the same, be it Fergie, Ransomes or even high cut. So what is learnt cannot be unlearnt, I guess we all strive for a furrow that we like (not always what the judges like mind) so if it can go towards achieving that then it's worth trying is it not? It's only an old broken KV moldboard that I have cut the sections out of with a plasma cutter and then TIG'd in situ with stainless rod, so it'd take all of 5 mins with the disc cutter to return them back to "as they left the factory" state. Most shares in our class have had bits and bobs done to them, be it wings cut off, Tungsten tiles welded to them, wings tweaked down etc etc.

 

[Ley253]

Anything to avoid the shops! They are not banned in other classes, but the fergy lot have an Hitleresqe adherence to "Purity of the race"! probably be ok till you start winning though!

 

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[Mydexta]

Finishing share?????

 

[Ley253]

Is this really worth the effort, other than for finishing? The area of the slice effected will be buried by the next furrow.

 

[spindle]

Have made this wing for a TCN set up hopefully will clean the furrow out at the start and Finnish not sure weather to use the narrow wing or the wider one for general work ?

 

[spindle]

Finishing share?????

Finishing share?????

Yes seen them on other ploughs and they seem to leave it nice and tidy

 

[spindle]

Is this really worth the effort, other than for finishing? The area of the slice effected will be buried by the next furrow.

Of course it's worth the effort Harry you more than anyone know that if you can gain a point here and there it's the difference between winning and losing

 

[MrNoo]

Have made this wing for a TCN set up hopefully will clean the furrow out at the start and Finnish not sure weather to use the narrow wing or the wider one for general work ?

I did both on my plough, used them for the whole match (only done 1 match) and they left a really nice clean furrow, a nice clean split too, I used an old broken KV moldboard, plasma cut the shapes out and then Tig'd with stainless rod, a tidy job. The fun police were fine with it bar one chap (who doesn't like us youngsters beating him!!)

 

[Ley253]

Of course it's worth the effort Harry you more than anyone know that if you can gain a point here and there it's the difference between winning and losing

These days kevin, I need to gain five or six, still one is better than nothing! I have been playing with some hydrein shares, def a change in the work, but, for better or worse?

 

[spindle]

These days kevin, I need to gain five or six, still one is better than nothing! I have been playing with some hydrein shares, def a change in the work, but, for better or worse?

You can't beat tinkering with things that's why I love what we do, I don't get it perfect a long way to go yet Harry , I have lots of ideas but not enough time and cash to do them

 

[spindle]

I did both on my plough, used them for the whole match (only done 1 match) and they left a really nice clean furrow, a nice clean split too, I used an old broken KV moldboard, plasma cut the shapes out and then Tig'd with stainless rod, a tidy job. The fun police were fine with it bar one chap (who doesn't like us youngsters beating him!!)

Good on you the older and more experienced ones are there to be beaten, did you use it on both of your opening runs or just the second ?

 

[MrNoo]

Good on you the older and more experienced ones are there to be beaten, did you use it on both of your opening runs or just the second ?

I modified both shares and used them for the whole match, 1st run to the last, mine are not wider, am ploughing at 9" with 6 1/2" share width but they just blend back into the lower edges of the boards.

 

[spindle]

I modified both shares and used them for the whole match, 1st run to the last, mine are not wider, am ploughing at 9" with 6 1/2" share width but they just blend back into the lower edges of the boards.

Would be interesting to see what it ploughs like if one had an original share and one a modified one just to make a comparison ?

 

[Howard150]

Would be interesting to see what it ploughs like if one had an original share and one a modified one just to make a comparison ?

One of the best ploughmen in the country uses RND bodies and ploughs with shares untouched. For general work the widest made for that body. RMTM 2’s

He does however use a much narrower ‘lea’ share for opening up so as not to disturb the ground either side of the opening.

Everybody seems to knock the wings off YL 44’s to give you a bigger hinge. How big that hinge needs to be is debatable.

Be careful because you can soon make yourself a lot of work for very little improvement.