Shatterboard Rollers Vs. Rake

[lexion610]

Which do you think is best post-drilling?
We currently rake, drill, rake then roll but I think it would be better to use shatterboard rolls after the drill to help level the drill marks (the Amazone Primera coulters leave the soil quite ridged) and reduce the number of passes.
We tried a neighbour's shatterboard rolls for spring re-drilling and it worked fairly well but the trash was very dry and sparse. How do they fare in less slippery, wetter and thicker trash in the autumn? Does it just block? Should we continue with the current method?
Cheers,
Lex

 

[rob1]

I used my shatterboard rolls this time after the claydon worked well, if wet would just use less down pressure, I adjust until I get the effect I want and then leave them down at the headlands, if its that wet I dont think I would be rolling at all

 

[BSH]

I have looked at some Opico/Heva rolls with the shatter board option and they have a shatterboard with teeth as opposed to a flat paddle. Do you think that would be an improvement or do you think a normal paddle is as good as anything?

 

[rob1]

I have looked at some Opico/Heva rolls with the shatter board option and they have a shatterboard with teeth as opposed to a flat paddle. Do you think that would be an improvement or do you think a normal paddle is as good as anything?

Depends on how wet the soil is and the level of trash to catch on them I guess, we use ours a lot to level horse paddocks and it is surprising how much soil they will move and the power they take if you press them down hard enough

 

[dorsetknob]

Hi Rob1 how do your Claydon crops look in the south west?

 

[rob1]

really pleased so far, as good if not better than earlier drilled crops done by min till or ploughing. Have grown linseed in the spring but never spring corn so lots to learn yet, all I know for certain is that it was too wet to plough from sept to april and if I had then would have had a nightmare to get a decent seedbed. Have had quite a bit of interest from people who want to try a bit themselves in the autumn.

 

[155tm]

Here is a picture of my Heva roll with clodboard with teeth, rolling after the jd 750a drill this spring doing a good job of dragging the straw along and evening it out. Whether we should be disturbing the soil surface in a no disturbance situation is a different question! doh!

Last autumn directly after the combine you had to be gentle with the paddles to avoid blocking, you couldn't push along as much straw as in the spring picture below.

I keep looking at the brackets and rams on the clodboards trying to work out how to swap them for two rows of straw harrow tines...

 

[Badshot]

I'm quite looking forward to getting into some chopped wheat straw with mine this year. They worked exceptionally well in rape stubbles last year, with care also in bean stubbles, baled wheat stubbles excellent, just didn't chop any wheat straw last year to try them in.

It appears that you hold more straw with the teeth than I do with normal paddles 155TM.

 

[155tm]

It appears that you hold more straw with the teeth than I do with normal paddles 155TM.

I agree, and I don't think it is an advantage to do that in the autumn close behind the combine, because it blocks. Question is do I put plain paddles on it or set up two rows of straw harrow tines........?

 

[Badshot]

I agree, and I don't think it is an advantage to do that in the autumn close behind the combine, because it blocks. Question is do I put plain paddles on it or set up two rows of straw harrow tines........?

Plain paddles would be easier, haynes have an old carrier 500 in with straw rake on the front though

 

[155tm]

Any idea what state it is in?

 

[Badshot]

New discs,

http://www.haynesgrp.co.uk/agricultural/machine-stock/search/page/2

Nice pink paint job, been there for a while might be up for a deal

 

[155tm]

cast rings and pink paint 7k punt!?

 

[Badshot]

Nothing to lose in trying, the straw rake looks better than the rest of it TBH

 

[155tm]

I guess they don't match that particular machine and have been found in the maidstone clear out?

 

[Badshot]

Could have been I guess, they are busy putting seedhawk drills together at great chart at the minute.