Shearing

Nithsdale

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Livestock Farmer
Anyone any idea where to get a gauge for setting up a Lister (Tallygrip) handpiece?

Horner sell a Heiniger and Supershear gauge... would one of them do?



I don't need one, but could be handy to have so I can strip/service my handpieces properly
 

tepapa

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Livestock Farmer
Location
North Wales
Anyone any idea where to get a gauge for setting up a Lister (Tallygrip) handpiece?

Horner sell a Heiniger and Supershear gauge... would one of them do?



I don't need one, but could be handy to have so I can strip/service my handpieces properly
You only need to set the fulcrum pin if it's being renewed otherwise don't touch it! It will have worn a certain shape.
I'd be surprised if Lister didn't sell one if you wanted to do a service kit.
 

Nithsdale

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Livestock Farmer
You only need to set the fulcrum pin if it's being renewed otherwise don't touch it! It will have worn a certain shape.
I'd be surprised if Lister didn't sell one if you wanted to do a service kit.

Aye, I know, but I've 1 handpiece has never been serviced in all the time we have had it... it runs OK but I think a full service at some point would benefit.
Change the cup and post at same time so a gauge would be needed if I wanted to do it.

A bit of looking the Supershear gauge is pretty similar to a Lister one, just depends if it would fit a Lister handpiece
 

pgk

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Sheared all our woolly ones save rams Saturday with 12v machine, had to move up to 140ah battery as some lanolin not rising despite heat. 12 rams to do soon as. Hair sheep just getting on with it and looking good, much less stressful watching them shed. Glad only got c100 woollies now. Kept some texel cross easycare hoggs, those that didn't take ram have shed and with a couple of exceptions those with lambs were easily shorn.
 

Nithsdale

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Livestock Farmer
Shearing 2019 has started.

First of the year, tups done. Be kind with the criticism :bag:

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A few go faster stripes :rolleyes: but they were really good going (y) they mostly sat and behaved... but that big Cheviot nearly killed me :hungover:
The blood on the arse of tup in the centre - he has a bad foot, and it's where I injected with AB's
 

shearerlad

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Livestock Farmer
Shearing 2019 has started.

First of the year, tups done. Be kind with the criticism :bag:

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A few go faster stripes :rolleyes: but they were really good going (y) they mostly sat and behaved... but that big Cheviot nearly killed me :hungover:
The blood on the arse of tup in the centre - he has a bad foot, and it's where I injected with AB's


At least they won’t get too much of a chill!!:rolleyes::rolleyes:
 

Nithsdale

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Livestock Farmer
Been rained off here since doing the tups on Monday... had wanted a mob or 2 done this week.

Raining over weekend but I'm at a beer festival tomorrow, so I don't care :rolleyes:

Here's hoping for a few dry days next week, but forecast isn't looking good. I had almost 1000 done after the first week of June last year - don't see that happening this time :unsure:
 

Gator

Never Forgotten
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Location
Lancashire
Been rained off here since doing the tups on Monday... had wanted a mob or 2 done this week.

Raining over weekend but I'm at a beer festival tomorrow, so I don't care :rolleyes:

Here's hoping for a few dry days next week, but forecast isn't looking good. I had almost 1000 done after the first week of June last year - don't see that happening this time :unsure:
Tomorra surpose to be dry here but p1ssin down next 4 days. day off Wednesday off to NSA:D
 

sheepwise

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Location
SW Scotland
Anyone any idea where to get a gauge for setting up a Lister (Tallygrip) handpiece?

Horner sell a Heiniger and Supershear gauge... would one of them do?



I don't need one, but could be handy to have so I can strip/service my handpieces properly
You don't need to touch the post to strip down and service a handpiece. If the handpiece is running well, the last thing you want to do is touch the post.
 

Hesstondriver

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Huntingdon
Ok stupid question alert:

The fleece is rolled and stuffed in to a wool sheet ( I think that’s the right name for the fudge off great big bag thing) all by hand .

Why is there no mechanical way of doing this , you can bale everything from straw right through to scrap cars and handle all with a loader , yet in my uneducated opinion we (I’m mean you with the sheep) seem to have a primitive way of handling and storeing fleeces !

Can someone educate me please!
 

andybk

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Mendips Somerset
Ok stupid question alert:

The fleece is rolled and stuffed in to a wool sheet ( I think that’s the right name for the fudge off great big bag thing) all by hand .

Why is there no mechanical way of doing this , you can bale everything from straw right through to scrap cars and handle all with a loader , yet in my uneducated opinion we (I’m mean you with the sheep) seem to have a primitive way of handling and storeing fleeces !

Can someone educate me please!

as tepapa has said above most farms would have a multitude of wool types that needs grading for sale , hydraulically pressed into a bale would make this very difficult at depot , unless all same breed and type
 

andybk

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Mendips Somerset
Thank you , I hadn’t thought of that element.
Would there be any merit in to pre sorting / grading on farm ? And could this maximise value?

to many mixed types on most farms, and grading is quite a specific skill , faults like vegetable/ soil matter and colour are very common on uk farms due to very low value , its hardly worth shearing let alone spend time with preparation pre clipping and sorting after, just a case of getting it off .
 

sheepwise

Member
Location
SW Scotland
Ok stupid question alert:

The fleece is rolled and stuffed in to a wool sheet ( I think that’s the right name for the fudge off great big bag thing) all by hand .

Why is there no mechanical way of doing this , you can bale everything from straw right through to scrap cars and handle all with a loader , yet in my uneducated opinion we (I’m mean you with the sheep) seem to have a primitive way of handling and storeing fleeces !

Can someone educate me please!
We have worked with a wool press on our shearing run for over 10 years now. Originally the press was supplied by BWMB as a trial but we ended up buying it. It was trialed as a way of reducing haulage costs but the project failed because BWMB staff refused to handle the bales which were secured by wire clips. BWMB bigwigs refused to listen to their producers and shearers and took the side of their depot staff. The result was that bales have to be sewn with string which negates any time savings in the wool handling process.There are a few customers who still ask for the press but generally we just use it for our own wool now. The pressed square bales are so much better for transport.
 

sheepwise

Member
Location
SW Scotland
Thank you , I hadn’t thought of that element.
Would there be any merit in to pre sorting / grading on farm ? And could this maximise value?
There was a trial done with low value swaledale wool a few years ago. Basically the cost of grading was more than the value of the wool even although there are really only two grades with these poor types - white and coloured with coloured almost worthless. So BWMB asked the producers of this wool to sort into the two lines on farm to try to retain a bit of value. Interestingly the grading percentage changed from 75% coloured to 75% white!!!
 

AftonShepherd

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Livestock Farmer
Location
East Ayrshire
We have worked with a wool press on our shearing run for over 10 years now. Originally the press was supplied by BWMB as a trial but we ended up buying it. It was trialed as a way of reducing haulage costs but the project failed because BWMB staff refused to handle the bales which were secured by wire clips. BWMB bigwigs refused to listen to their producers and shearers and took the side of their depot staff. The result was that bales have to be sewn with string which negates any time savings in the wool handling process.There are a few customers who still ask for the press but generally we just use it for our own wool now. The pressed square bales are so much better for transport.
Sounds great but easy to remove wheels and ability to run off electric would be essential ;)
 

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