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Bury the Trash

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Mixed Farmer
If you introduce sheep to the lowlands in great numbers it will destroy the trade for Hill Farmers who depend on sheep and can't do anything else
The simple solution for arable farmers is grow cover crops
good point
but there have always been sheep on the lowlands and in some places (that can just about grow corn) at a higher density than the uplands.
 

Derrick Hughes

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Location
Ceredigion
Enough sheep in wales 🤔
Meddlers
Surely lowland farms would be better off opportunistically finishing the sheep and lambs from the uplands? rather than having the cost and year round inconvenience of keeping and breeding them?
I fatten lambs and winter sheep for a hill farmer . It works fine without Government sticking their noses in
 

Bury the Trash

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Mixed Farmer
Surely lowland farms would be better off opportunistically finishing the sheep and lambs from the uplands? rather than having the cost and year round inconvenience of keeping and breeding them?
well the theory is that lowland breeding flocks can produce the earlier lamb. works ok as long as the supermarkets dont go and buy in New Zealand ones,:sneaky: lol
.... ha, ha, ....no tbf lots of home grown hogs can pull the early suck lamb trade down as well.

lot of early lambing was stopped because of the way higher costs tho, even lowland .
 

Bury the Trash

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Mixed Farmer
everybody just needs too work together 🥰 arable and sheep men can be besties
until they break into hes prizewinning wheat crop at 5am one Sunday morning 🤣

joking aside it seems funny to me how theres loads of cornfields without even field gates on to the road let alone fencing.
 

Guleesh

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Isle of Skye
well the theory is that lowland breeding flocks can produce the earlier lamb. works ok as long as the supermarkets dont go and buy in New Zealand ones,:sneaky: lol
.... ha, ha, ....no tbf lots of home grown hogs can pull the early suck lamb trade down as well.

lot of early lambing was stopped because of the way higher costs tho, even lowland .

As a peasant hill shepherd it seems so obvious to me what those wealthy lowland farmers should do.... :unsure:

If ground is best for arable farming but sheep are wanted for fertility- the 'golden hoof' or whatever, I'd of thought it best to just have them on and off for short time periods rather than having to waste productive ground on them all year round. After all, for most of the year they're just wandering around testing fences, overgrazing everything and frequently dying...
 

Bury the Trash

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Mixed Farmer
As a peasant hill shepherd it seems so obvious to me what those wealthy lowland farmers should do.... :unsure:

If ground is best for arable farming but sheep are wanted for fertility- the 'golden hoof' or whatever, I'd of thought it best to just have them on and off for short time periods rather than having to waste productive ground on them all year round. After all, for most of the year they're just wandering around testing fences, overgrazing everything and frequently dying...
Wealthy or otherwise , what should lowland farmers do if there land, or a percentage of isn't suitable for anything other than grazing with Sheep ?

We been mixed farmers sheep cattle arable in this part of the World for at least 200yrs so far that we can trace ,

Sheep form an integral part of our farm and long may they do so.
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
As a peasant hill shepherd it seems so obvious to me what those wealthy lowland farmers should do.... :unsure:

If ground is best for arable farming but sheep are wanted for fertility- the 'golden hoof' or whatever, I'd of thought it best to just have them on and off for short time periods rather than having to waste productive ground on them all year round. After all, for most of the year they're just wandering around testing fences, overgrazing everything and frequently dying...

I have a fair chunk of parkland here, dating back to the 16th Century, which can't be ploughed, reseeded or even subdivided up much to improve that way. I also have a lot of fields that are listed as 'permanent pasture' in my tenancy agreement, and which states that I have to retain them as pp.

The most I could go to on this lowland farm, is about one third of the farm in cropping. I don't do that high a proportion as lowland sheep pay better.... and I find it mind numbing sitting on a tractor all day.
 

Mc115reed

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Livestock Farmer
As a peasant hill shepherd it seems so obvious to me what those wealthy lowland farmers should do.... :unsure:

If ground is best for arable farming but sheep are wanted for fertility- the 'golden hoof' or whatever, I'd of thought it best to just have them on and off for short time periods rather than having to waste productive ground on them all year round. After all, for most of the year they're just wandering around testing fences, overgrazing everything and frequently dying...
Most arable farmers want a partition of grass these days Rotated around there land as a way too combat black grass and think they get a wedge of cash off some subsidies somewhere for it too?
 

Guleesh

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Isle of Skye
:mad:
Right you lot. If you lowland guys are going to breed sheep then I'm going to start growing wheat and hops and suchlike and see how you like it.
 

Bury the Trash

Member
Mixed Farmer
:mad:
Right you lot. If you lowland guys are going to breed sheep then I'm going to start growing wheat and hops and suchlike and see how you like it.
never mind that, just grow Westerwolds, small sieves in your combine and bobs yer.. not fert so orgainc= 3k plus:oops: per tonne (retail) bag and courier it out ,no prob as its a lightweight seed ,a tonne of grass seed doesn't weigh much :sneaky:
 

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