Shipping container on agriculture land

[Jen1]

Hi,
Has anyone got any experience around if you need planning permission for a 20ft shipping container on arable land for own use like animal feed and chainsaw etc ? Tried asking local council and didn’t say yes or no just said apply for planning which means paying to do so but dont want to pay if i dont need planning, cheers

 

[Still Farming]

Portable so ok possibly?

 

[Welderloon]

If you own the land, own the container, the container is being used for 'temporary' storage of items pertaining to your business & the container is not blocking or hindering the view of road or a risk to road users then you do not need PP - in Scotland anyway

 

[delilah]

It's fine. We have one with door and windows, the firm we purchased it from have sold lots to orchards etc as welfare units and no PP needed, so a plain box which presents little opportunity to be repurposed into a dwelling is of even less concern to the planners.

 

[Old apprentice]

It's not fixed to the ground

 

[Hay Maker]

It's fine. We have one with door and windows, the firm we purchased it from have sold lots to orchards etc as welfare units and no PP needed, so a plain box which presents little opportunity to be repurposed into a dwelling is of even less concern to the planners.

Just go ahead should be no problem but maybe chose a green colour or paint in camaflage!

 

[George from SJM Planning]

If it is temporary and being used for agricultural use then would not need planning but if being sited permanently it will need permission.

 

[suffolksmallholder]

Tip;
Put a concrete pad-stone at each corner.
make sure they are all at the same height.
Your doors will then shut easily. The concrete pads stops any twist.
No planning required as far as I know.
SS

 

[nick...]

Another case of JFDI
nick...

 

[Jen1]

If it is temporary and being used for agricultural use then would not need planning but if being sited permanently it will need permission.

Thanks how would i prove its not temporary though if they ask, its on sleepers to move it ?

 

[Old apprentice]

Sounds of but just move to once a year just the length of it self.

 

[Ffermer Bach]

Tip;
Put a concrete pad-stone at each corner.
make sure they are all at the same height.
Your doors will then shut easily. The concrete pads stops any twist.
No planning required as far as I know.
SS

I was also told, to make sure there is a 1" fall on the concrete pads from one side to the other so the water does not sit on the roof but drains.

 

[Still Farming]

Sounds of but just move to once a year just the length of it self.

Planners love Google maps to check etc etc and just keep coming back to check if waster on the job possibly??

 

[chaffcutter]

Planners don’t have time to do their job properly never mind monitoring whether your container has been moved or not!

 

[yellow belly]

Temporary just means not fixed

 

[Ffermer Bach]

Temporary just means not fixed

But remember, here in Wales anyway, the cross compliance rules for the environmental schemes, any item of machinery etc that didn't move for over a year was considered rubbish, so it wouldn't surprise me, if there is some sort of rule about what temporary means.

 

[Grass And Grain]

Put it where you want it, and on off chance planners turn up and say it's been in a permanent position.... move it a bit. Leave it in position No. 2 until/unless they turn up again. Then shift it back to where it was in the first place. They'll soon get bored.

 

[George from SJM Planning]

Temporary just means not fixed

No it doesn't - temporary in planning terms needs the structure to have a fixed period of use, or a use that requires it's movement and that there is means to move it.

 

[tullah]

Temporary just means not fixed

Will need moving occasionally as you’re doing your bit for the eco system exposing bugs etc for song birds. It’s all the rage.

 

[Enfoff]

Temporary just means not fixed

We have one that has an electricity supply/consumer unit which goes to two poly tunnels. Council classed the container as temporary and only wanted planning for the tunnels.