Shortage of good staff

[serf]

Ever the optimist!

But, I think you are right the current house prices are unsustainable and need a good correction without the Government bailout this time.

This is the trouble, the job needs to sort its self out and not have the gov intervening at every dip and trough that comes along , the prices and demand of everything is ridiculous like this .... reset start again needed

 

[Adeptandy]

Taking on staff. That’s probably the reason those tradesmen don’t want to take the leap. They then become too big to be small businesses and to small to justify the extra administration and managing required and the profit percentage slides the wrong way

Finding someone to keep up and work to the required standard is the biggest challenge

 

[Lincs Lass]

Finding someone to keep up and work to the required standard is the biggest challenge

The times folks have said to me ,Do you all ways work on your own,why dont you get somebody to help .
Nobody could keep up with me and couldn't get out of bed early enough to be here

 

[Hfd Cattle]

So you are complaining about a Benefits system that allows your tenants to pay pay you money that they otherwise wouldn't be able to give you?

How did you get to own the house the tenants are living in? Through subsidised farm profits or because you inherited untaxed wealth?

Where was I complaining ?
I own the properties through sheer hard work and determination.
Completely separate to the farming side of things ....... so once again you are being a knob!!

 

[serf]

The times folks have said to me ,Do you all ways work on your own,why dont you get somebody to help .
Nobody could keep up with me and could get out of bed early enough to be here

Read your first paragraph and your second said what I was going to write

You can count me out , I'd be scrap after a week at your rate

 

[betweenthelines]

A family of 5 gets around 1700 a month just on benefits if they play the system!!
....no too much incentive to go out to work

That's what you put.

Do you not understand that you are "playing the system" just as much as those directly claiming benefits?

 

[unlacedgecko]

That's what you put.

Do you not understand that you are "playing the system" just as much as those directly claiming benefits?

But they were born into "untaxed inherited wealth" as you put it. Dropping out the right fanny makes them better

 

[Hilly]

The bubble is going to burst big time in the construction sector and then they’ll be hundreds of thousands unemployed. Interest rate rises, inflation will stop people buying houses. I know plenty with good jobs who were thinking of moving house or extending existing houses. Pretty much all of them have shelved the idea.

It burst ages ago in scotland but the government took over and are building sh!t load of socail housing to keep it afloat ….. for how is anyones guess .

 

[thesilentone]

It burst ages ago in scotland but the government took over and are building sh!t load of socail housing to keep it afloat ….. for how is anyones guess .

.......and Ferries

 

[Adeptandy]

The times folks have said to me ,Do you all ways work on your own,why dont you get somebody to help .
Nobody could keep up with me and couldn't get out of bed early enough to be here

Same problem

 

[Dead Rabbits]

Good help is always hard to get. It’s just now all help is hard to get.

I never expect people to do what I do. Cuts down on the disappointment

 

[kiwi pom]

Finding someone to keep up and work to the required standard is the biggest challenge

The times folks have said to me ,Do you all ways work on your own,why dont you get somebody to help .
Nobody could keep up with me and couldn't get out of bed early enough to be here

You two would be good examples of why there aren't as many good employees anymore. Years ago you'd have worked for a large company, today you go out on your own.
Why don't you work for someone instead of running your own business and if you did work full time for someone do you think you'd work as hard and fast for an hourly rate as you do now?


Not knocking you at all, just pointing out how the employment market works, people want to decide how they spend their time and not work to someone else's schedule and rules.

 

[Lofty1984]

I work for my boss like it’s my own I’m sure there are plenty of other employees the same maybe it’s upbringing on a family farm, I went off and got a trade for a few years, I think that every farmers son should do the same then there would be far less cockwombles with no clue on the wider working world trying to employ good men then moaning they can’t keep staff, …. No offence meant and not aimed at any one,

 

[Lincs Lass]

You two would be good examples of why there aren't as many good employees anymore. Years ago you'd have worked for a large company, today you go out on your own.
Why don't you work for someone instead of running your own business and if you did work full time for someone do you think you'd work as hard and fast for an hourly rate as you do now?


Not knocking you at all, just pointing out how the employment market works, people want to decide how they spend their time and not work to someone else's schedule and rules.

I worked for other folks all my life and then the penny dropped ,,didn't matter how many hours a day you put in ,there wasn't any gratitude ,,just another number on the wages list .
2008 was the deciding factor ,,had been driving a 360 on a gas terminal construction ,,in the October ,suddenly 650 contractors were of site ,building recession hit hard and that was the end of that .
Took abit of advice about going SE ,,never looked back ,,Ive only got myself to blame if something isnt right ,it pays much more .
Got its down sides ,,foul weather ,,customers that chop and change their ideas ,,delivery delays , bit worrying at the minute with so many price hikes and uncertainties but then just yesterday ,a guy comes to me from 18 months ago ,,Sorry he says for not getting back to you but he had that many delays ,let downs and the dreaded bug ,,he had let things settle down ,,Now he wants a load of work doing ,,happy days .
So going from folks cancelling last week and it looking gloomy ,,suddenly its looking brighter .

Would I be an employee again ,,not a hope .

 

[Adeptandy]

You two would be good examples of why there aren't as many good employees anymore. Years ago you'd have worked for a large company, today you go out on your own.
Why don't you work for someone instead of running your own business and if you did work full time for someone do you think you'd work as hard and fast for an hourly rate as you do now?


Not knocking you at all, just pointing out how the employment market works, people want to decide how they spend their time and not work to someone else's schedule and rules.

2 ways of looking at it, further up the thread there are posters complaining of people only working for 5 hours in a day for good £ who would you rather come to you place and work ? Someone who starts at say 8am works til lunch has 30mins and goes again til say 4pm or someone who turns up at 8 if your lucky, rolls a cig eventually starts at 9, cup of T at 10, 30 mins later starts again, then an hour for lunch, another cuppa and starts packing up at 3. Personally, I have been employed, drove lorries for a while in my younger days, used to get all the hand ball bag potato loads as I was the only one who’d do it without complaining. Tbh, I quite enjoyed the workout after sitting on my backside all day driving

 

[Lincs Lass]

Tbh, I quite enjoyed the workout after sitting on my backside all day driving

95 % of my job is a physical workout ,,saves a fortune on gym fees

 

[Mydexta]

Here’s a thought, are there many operators, gfw, livestock people actually out there

round here, for yrs I can’t think of many places that have given a young lad or school leaver a chance, and have filled most gaps with either migrant workers, or scraped by without.

now the aging workforce are retiring, and the migrants have returned to their homeland, some places are struggling to get staff as they aren’t there get

Yes, employing youngsters can come with its own problems, but if nobody trains them up, the industry is in for trouble in the next few yrs

 

[Adeptandy]

Here’s a thought, are there many operators, gfw, livestock people actually out there

round here, for yrs I can’t think of many places that have given a young lad or school leaver a chance, and have filled most gaps with either migrant workers, or scraped by without.

now the aging workforce are retiring, and the migrants have returned to their homeland, some places are struggling to get staff as they aren’t there get

Yes, employing youngsters can come with its own problems, but if nobody trains them up, the industry is in for trouble in the next few yrs

I hate to be the pessimist, but I think the industry is screwed in this country anyway until either farmers stop shafting each other, the government sees we’re important or the general public realise food is important.

 

[kiwi pom]

I worked for other folks all my life and then the penny dropped ,,didn't matter how many hours a day you put in ,there wasn't any gratitude ,,just another number on the wages list .
2008 was the deciding factor ,,had been driving a 360 on a gas terminal construction ,,in the October ,suddenly 650 contractors were of site ,building recession hit hard and that was the end of that .
Took abit of advice about going SE ,,never looked back ,,Ive only got myself to blame if something isnt right ,it pays much more .
Got its down sides ,,foul weather ,,customers that chop and change their ideas ,,delivery delays , bit worrying at the minute with so many price hikes and uncertainties but then just yesterday ,a guy comes to me from 18 months ago ,,Sorry he says for not getting back to you but he had that many delays ,let downs and the dreaded bug ,,he had let things settle down ,,Now he wants a load of work doing ,,happy days .
So going from folks cancelling last week and it looking gloomy ,,suddenly its looking brighter .

Would I be an employee again ,,not a hope .

Exactly, many of the good workers like yourself (I see your posts on today at work) just get sick of working for people, there's a whole lot of reasons but one of them could be, there's a shortage of good employers?
Why would you work for someone else if you don't have to?

 

[Ben B]

Exactly, many of the good workers like yourself (I see your posts on today at work) just get sick of working for people, there's a whole lot of reasons but one of them could be, there's a shortage of good employers?
Why would you work for someone else if you don't have to?

He has point you hear of the people who have trouble with employees then you hear of the conditions the employee's working under and you stop wondering why they as employers have trouble. We picked one bloke up years ago because he was sick of not knowing when the boss was around and when he was away on holidays. You still see this employer constantly advertising for more staff. One online portal had a list of questions from the employer that had to be answered with the application. The first one 'was how long are you required to give notice before leaving a job' sends a really good image of who you're working for in my opinion.