Should jcb start making conventional tractors?

[Chae1]

I'd love a tractor with the JCB engine.

Strange they use sisu engines in tractors then?

 

[Chae1]

Maybe try 7000 series again with direct drive style transmission

No thats what they had before. All tractors should have cvt type gearboxes in my opinion.

 

[Deutzdx3]

You can pretty much guarantee they have crunched the numbers and gone no! The uk is a tiny market in the world stage.

Nearly all the brands surely make perfectly good stockmans tractors. There would be no profit in jcb making tractors in this HP range or design.

 

[Scribus]

Strange they use sisu engines in tractors then?

Sisu is a brand name used by AGCO and while I'm sure that they are happy with JCB using their engines I'm not convinced that the delight would be quite so radiant if JCB started building a tractor to compete with Fendt, Valtra and MF.

 

[Cowabunga]

AGCO are now a major supplier to JCB tractors. Not only do they supply AGCOpower [Sisu as was] engines but also the AGCO CVT transmission [a la Fendt].

 

[Scribus]

AGCO are now a major supplier to JCB tractors. Not only do they supply AGCOpower [Sisu as was] engines but also the AGCO CVT transmission [a la Fendt].

I have good reason to believe that the Sisu name is still used in certain markets, in Finnish it means guts and determination, a brilliant moniker for off road engines. Also worth noting that AGCO have recently invested €100m in rebuilding the engine factory near Nokia, they are obviously not convinced that the end of the IC engine is nigh but are looking at alternative fuels to burn within it.

 

[daveydiesel1]

So what is wrong with p tronic. Iv no experience with fastrac but would quite like one with demount sprayer and for slurry haulage and long distance jobs

 

[Two Tone]

I bought one of the last 2155’s and I cant see it leaving this farm for a long time.
The 4000 series is far too highly specked for what I want.
The beauty of the 2000 series is its simplicity, speed and comfort.
I wish all manufacturers would offer these types of tractor.
Why should I pay for spec I just don’t need and will never pay for itself?

The 2000 series has a proper gearbox, not a vario.
I’ve been hauling wheat all week to a local mill, which involves going up some long, reasonably steep hills and particularly bad, right from the bottom to the top of Chipping Norton.
My 2155 has been chipped to about 215 HP and is pulling a 16 ton+ load of wheat.
There is a firm round here using 4220’s to pull wood chip using the same route. Not sure what their loads weigh, but I’ve met them coming the other way up one of the hills by a village called Little Compton on the A44 and I’d swear I get up it much faster!

I do not want a vario gearbox! For road work, if they are that good, why aren’t all trucks fitted with them?

 

[grass man]

Don't think they sold many either.

The gearbox was dreaded P-tronic fitted to 3230 also as far as i remember.

I know a couple people that run them and really like them. Massive external brakes!

There was a UK based baling contractor on you tube had a 7000 series fastrac gearbox loaded on an ifor williams heading to a transmission repairer, never seen the outcome but in previous videos he was not happy about jcb parts supply and attitude to older tractors. Be interesting to hear the outcome

 

[Hasbeennoall]

No they should make any more conventional tractors overpriced junk already ,sorry for been blunt!

 

[holywell farmer]

Jcb could make a conventional tractor but just label it jcb rather than a fastrac,

 

[Hasbeennoall]

Hi hilly ,fastrac maybe fast on the flat but turn up hill what happens ??

 

[Two Tone]

Hi hilly ,fastrac maybe fast on the flat but turn up hill what happens ??

That depends on whether or not it has a proper gearbox.

 

[Suffolk Serf]

One of their backhoe loaders (4cx?) with a decent pickup hitch and some spool valves instead of the backhoe would probably do me if the price was right.

 

[Hasbeennoall]

That depends on whether or not it has a proper gearbox.

Gearbox busted!

 

[Nearly]

Jcb could make a conventional tractor but just label it jcb rather than a fastrac,

Slowtrac?

 

[Chae1]

Hi hilly ,fastrac maybe fast on the flat but turn up hill what happens ??

Hillys got 3185s, hills don't bother them. Can't beat a cummins engine.

Our fastracs best pulling tractor we have, 2170 will leave t7 260 in its wake when on a hill.

Which models have you driven?

 

[Hasbeennoall]

155-65 then 2140 then there was none

 

[Andrew]

Fastracs aren’t any more money than conventional tractors, if you were buying a JCB why would you buy a slow one?

Current range starts at 160hp, why make anything smaller?

So no, don’t think they should.

 

[holywell farmer]

Slowtrac?

Well if take out the fastrac name they could produce a 40k tractor with a semi powershift gear box ?