Silage clamp

coomoo

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Scotland
What a mine field going through clamp designs costs etc. Was going to go earth banks with a centre wall but instead thinking panels 3m high all the way around and a 3m panel centre wall. Before I speak to an engineer anybody done similar. Would be interested to know steel and how big the foundations will be ( 1200 pad poured with another 1500 on top?) Tia
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frederick

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Location
south west
Earth bank ideal for safety. But a struggle to meet regs as there has to be drainage external to the wall. Can be done with panels and back filled with gravel but not as straight forward.
 

Bald Rick

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Anglesey
What a mine field going through clamp designs costs etc. Was going to go earth banks with a centre wall but instead thinking panels 3m high all the way around and a 3m panel centre wall. Before I speak to an engineer anybody done similar. Would be interested to know steel and how big the foundations will be ( 1200 pad poured with another 1500 on top?) TiaView attachment 882817

Buy Irish panels ... miles cheaper even with a sea journey. Mad but there you are.
Could also consider L panels rather than stanchion and flats. Restricted to 3m on Ls but can go to 4m with A panels. A panels are much more expensive than L because can only get 8 As on a lorry.
 

Bald Rick

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Anglesey
I would also add that firms such as Moore Concrete or Croombe will help you with engineering design if necessary but single pour slab is essential
 

puppet

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Livestock Farmer
Location
sw scotland
We built an earth bank 6 years ago holding around 1000 tons. You have got a good slope to dig into. Much safer to roll. We put mesh in the floor even though we were down to some rock. Saw a new pit with none and half the slab was moving a bit within 4 years. We laid the slab then a builder built a wall 2 blocks high (3 may have been better) with reinforcing drilled in each to the pad, solid pipe behind it to take water away then back filled. Lot cheaper than the quotes for a grant-aided one.
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is from last year.
 

frederick

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Location
south west
We built an earth bank 6 years ago holding around 1000 tons. You have got a good slope to dig into. Much safer to roll. We put mesh in the floor even though we were down to some rock. Saw a new pit with none and half the slab was moving a bit within 4 years. We laid the slab then a builder built a wall 2 blocks high (3 may have been better) with reinforcing drilled in each to the pad, solid pipe behind it to take water away then back filled. Lot cheaper than the quotes for a grant-aided one.
PictureView attachment 882897 is from last year.
Would it be possible to have a photo of your wall arrangement and how the earth bank then meets it. Or is it already all buried in grass.
Was that enough to get environment agency approval.

Thanks
 

puppet

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Livestock Farmer
Location
sw scotland
Would it be possible to have a photo of your wall arrangement and how the earth bank then meets it. Or is it already all buried in grass.
Was that enough to get environment agency approval.

Thanks
I can pop out tonight and take a photo as still empty. SEPA and building control fully involved and happy. Spoke to them first.
Wall is 45 degrees.
 

pappuller

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
M6 Hard shoulder
What a mine field going through clamp designs costs etc. Was going to go earth banks with a centre wall but instead thinking panels 3m high all the way around and a 3m panel centre wall. Before I speak to an engineer anybody done similar. Would be interested to know steel and how big the foundations will be ( 1200 pad poured with another 1500 on top?) TiaView attachment 882817
Would certainly consider open at both ends, gives scope for expansion and gives you options to open one end while filling the other.
 

yin ewe

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Co Antrim
What about a panel round the bottom, then slope clay up from the top of the panel to whatever height you require. Cheaper than paneling the whole thing, but easier to keep tidy than a clay bank to the floor. L walls can be used for dividing but you need to fill on top of the toe first. A walls can be filled from either side if they are bolted down.
 

MrA.G.

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Northern Ireland
As a structural engineer and farmer I’ve never understood why panel and post clamps are so popular. They don’t make sense from an engineering point of view or on for durability. In order of cost if doing a silo I would consider the following.
- reinforced pad to falls with no walls
- reinforced pad with soil banks
- Fully shuttered silo
- fully shuttered silo with roof. Posts rising off wall, not to ground
 

milkloss

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Livestock Farmer
Location
East Sussex
We built an earth bank 6 years ago holding around 1000 tons. You have got a good slope to dig into. Much safer to roll. We put mesh in the floor even though we were down to some rock. Saw a new pit with none and half the slab was moving a bit within 4 years. We laid the slab then a builder built a wall 2 blocks high (3 may have been better) with reinforcing drilled in each to the pad, solid pipe behind it to take water away then back filled. Lot cheaper than the quotes for a grant-aided one.
PictureView attachment 882897 is from last year.

I presume any juice runs to one end and is caught in a tank? Looks like a decent design.
 

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The Health and Safety Executive for Northern Ireland (HSENI) alongside the Farm Safety Partnership (FSP), has named new farm safety champions and commended the outstanding work on farm safety that has been carried out in the farming community in the last 20 years.

Two of these champions are Malcom Downey, retired principal inspector for the Agri/Food team in HSENI and Harry Sinclair, current chair of the Farm Safety Partnership and former president of the Ulster Farmers’ Union (UFU).

Improving farm safety is the key aim of HSENI’s and the FSP’s work and...
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