Silage effluent tank.

[Andrew1983]

Following on from a cross compliance inspection last year we need to do something with effluent. Pits were put in in 70s and they never bothered with a tank. There's been no pollution caused by effluent but the inspector wasn't happy that it wasn't being caught. So does anyone know if we can just buy a big steel tank from scrappy or does it have to be a new tank with certificate? Boss thinks we can just bury an old diesel tank....

Would a plastic tank do? Don't want to have to spend a penny more than necessary to get them off our case, even if there had been a 45gal drum sunk in the ground last year it would have just been glanced over! To late for that now.

 

[Penmoel]

We put one of those 1500l orange tanks underground once, come winter it collapsed in with ground water pressure. use a plastic septic tank would be best

 

[Dave6170]

We ve got one o them onion shape tanks. Its a pain it always need emptied cause all the rain off the sheet goes in it as well. Got a draper submersible pump in it now with a auto float. Saves using the tanker every other day. Pump has a pipe goin out into a wee bit of trees and weaves about. they re happy with that

 

[Andrew1983]

We put one of those 1500l orange tanks underground once, come winter it collapsed in with ground water pressure. use a plastic septic tank would be best

I seem to remember the last time we put a new pit in at home, 14 years ago that the area of concrete decided the size of tank, does anyone know if the same applies to my current situation, I know if we are seen to be doing something it's a start but will be pee'd off if we go to bother off doing it then get told its not good enough because no bit of paper, think il phone sepa next week.

 

[willie waver]

just bury the old diesel tank and when they ask the capacity make sure you tell them its over the required pit size to effluent ratio. the important thing that they'll look for is making sure all the effluent from the pit is drained into it properly

 

[Barleycorn]

Be very careful! If your silage pits were built before 1991, which yours obviously were then you cannot be made to upgrade them. But if you do any work on them, including fitting an effluent pit as you suggest, then the whole pit has to comply to the latest regulations. Absolutely mad, but the regulations!

We have chalk walled pits, but dare not do anything to improve them, as they would never pass modern regulations, although adding a bit of concrete, or an effluent pit would no doubt be benificial. That's the daft EU world we live in!

 

[KennyO]

We ve got one o them onion shape tanks. Its a pain it always need emptied cause all the rain off the sheet goes in it as well. Got a draper submersible pump in it now with a auto float. Saves using the tanker every other day. Pump has a pipe goin out into a wee bit of trees and weaves about. they re happy with that

I think I might try that with ours. Maybe pump it into wood and put out some trickle tape for when the worst of the effluent has past and its just rain water.

 

[Headless chicken]

I seem to remember the last time we put a new pit in at home, 14 years ago that the area of concrete decided the size of tank, does anyone know if the same applies to my current situation, I know if we are seen to be doing something it's a start but will be pee'd off if we go to bother off doing it then get told its not good enough because no bit of paper, think il phone sepa next week.

Could you not sell boss the old diesel tank on paper and invoice as say 10,000 + sumb pump. Then paper work would match.

 

[Hilly]

http://www.conderproducts.com/projects/agricultural-projects.1264.html

I got a 9000 gallon one of these lot 10 years ago and its been good.

 

[Blue.]

I have a clamp that drains into an orange tank,we filled it with water then concreted it in (it still pushed in holds about 1200l) Have a sub pump for it and also have a buried 63mm pipe that I can pump down into my lagoon.

 

[Bill the Bass]

Be very careful! If your silage pits were built before 1991, which yours obviously were then you cannot be made to upgrade them. But if you do any work on them, including fitting an effluent pit as you suggest, then the whole pit has to comply to the latest regulations. Absolutely mad, but the regulations!

We have chalk walled pits, but dare not do anything to improve them, as they would never pass modern regulations, although adding a bit of concrete, or an effluent pit would no doubt be benificial. That's the daft EU world we live in!

I think the rules are different for Scotland i.e. the pre 1991 exemption ruling doesn't apply north of the border I believe.

 

[AlfM]

Similar situation. Any links to suitable submersible pumps that can handle being in the crud.

 

[jamj]

We used a couple of concrete rings with submersible pump. Rings were set unto floor of concrete, and backfilled with stone.

 

[Hilly]

I have a clamp that drains into an orange tank,we filled it with water then concreted it in (it still pushed in holds about 1200l) Have a sub pump for it and also have a buried 63mm pipe that I can pump down into my lagoon.

You don't often see them these days I think IBC `s must have superseded them.

 

[defender]

an old railway tank is ideal for silage effluent ,the tanks are reasonably thick steel and are glass lined

 

[Hilly]

an old railway tank is ideal for silage effluent ,the tanks are reasonably thick steel and are glass lined

Where do you get them ?

 

[defender]

Where do you get them ?

no idea where you would get them now , I think they were redundant after the Beeching cuts of the 60`s , Been one lying here for 25 years and it just looks the same as it did 25 years ago , the glass lining was good for molasses as well
they still come up occasionally at farm sales