Silage grant in Republic of Ireland 100 euro a hectare.

[glasshouse]

Hopefully the scottish government will follow suit, need something similar, fertiliser, fuel, plastic, machinery cost to just fix not buy are crazy really. Can't go on. I, ll be seeing about getn 100 acre in trees if its 5 or 6 grand for upland ground in the central belt. Per acre. Only have a daughter, not intreasted, so just myself playing away at it, different if a teenage son.

Treeplanting will be stopped

 

[The Jolly Farmer]

Hopefully the scottish government will follow suit, need something similar, fertiliser, fuel, plastic, machinery cost to just fix not buy are crazy really. Can't go on. I, ll be seeing about getn 100 acre in trees if its 5 or 6 grand for upland ground in the central belt. Per acre. Only have a daughter, not intreasted, so just myself playing away at it, different if a teenage son.

"Please, sir, may I have some more please?"

 

[deere 6600]

Hopefully the scottish government will follow suit, need something similar, fertiliser, fuel, plastic, machinery cost to just fix not buy are crazy really. Can't go on. I, ll be seeing about getn 100 acre in trees if its 5 or 6 grand for upland ground in the central belt. Per acre. Only have a daughter, not intreasted, so just myself playing away at it, different if a teenage son.

It’s hard to argue against this

 

[Jimdog1]

Hopefully the scottish government will follow suit, need something similar, fertiliser, fuel, plastic, machinery cost to just fix not buy are crazy really. Can't go on. I, ll be seeing about getn 100 acre in trees if its 5 or 6 grand for upland ground in the central belt. Per acre. Only have a daughter, not intreasted, so just myself playing away at it, different if a teenage son.

Can't see how that sub will help. As said before it will end up straight in the manufacturer pocket. Same with people asking for fertiliser sub. The end user has to pay - anything else is just market distortion. We need to go through this painful time to set the market for our produce right. Sooner we get it done with the better.

 

[glasshouse]

Can't see how that sub will help. As said before it will end up straight in the manufacturer pocket. Same with people asking for fertiliser sub. The end user has to pay - anything else is just market distortion. We need to go through this painful time to set the market for our produce right. Sooner we get it done with the better.

Its a short term fix to avert a larger problem

 

[Jimdog1]

It's kicking the can down the road.

 

[glasshouse]

It's kicking the can down the road.

Whats the alternative at this moment?

 

[Bald n Grumpy]

Its a short term fix to avert a larger problem

How is it a fix?

 

[glasshouse]

How is it a fix?

Gives some cash to farmers for fert who might otherwise not put any on

 

[Jimdog1]

Gives some cash to farmers for fert who might otherwise not put any on

Help has got to come from the consumer.

 

[glasshouse]

Help has got to come from the consumer.

Man is in the water, needs a lifebelt NOW
By the time the consumer wakes up he will have drowned
Handwringing and flowers wont bring him back

 

[Jimdog1]

Man is in the water, needs a lifebelt NOW
By the time the consumer wakes up he will have drowned
Handwringing and flowers wont bring him back

I hear what are saying and I don't like paying these prices any more than the next man. Inevitably I will spread less fert, buy less plastic and probably have less stock. Everything I buy is costing more - it can't all be subsidised. Someone down the line either has to pay more or not get. I have no idea how that is going to go but something has to change

 

[Bald n Grumpy]

Something need's doing but putting money into the pocket's of big oil companies who are already reporting profit's 3times bigger than this time last year doesn't seem like a fix to me. A lot of consumer's are feeling the pinch as well

 

[unlacedgecko]

I hear what are saying and I don't like paying these prices any more than the next man. Inevitably I will spread less fert, buy less plastic and probably have less stock. Everything I buy is costing more - it can't all be subsidised. Someone down the line either has to pay more or not get. I have no idea how that is going to go but something has to change

Systems need to change. Current yield chasing high input high output is broken.

 

[Nithsdale]

Something need's doing but putting money into the pocket's of big oil companies who are already reporting profit's 3times bigger than this time last year doesn't seem like a fix to me. A lot of consumer's are feeling the pinch as well

Energy and oil companies all posting huge profits...


It just shows how f**ked the Tory party has let this country get. Big business is f**king every single one of us

 

[glasshouse]

Energy and oil companies all posting huge profits...


It just shows how f**ked the Tory party has let this country get. Big business is f**king every single one of us

The labour party had the chance to change it from 1997 to 2010 but didnt

 

[Jimdog1]

Governments of either colour are not going to help us. Empty warehouses is the only thing that is going to sort this.

 

[Henarar]

Do they have to spend the money on fert/feed/plastic or is it just an area based payment that they can do what they like with ?

 

[Nithsdale]

The labour party had the chance to change it from 1997 to 2010 but didnt

True, but I think you look back the last few years since the Tory's got their majority (2016??) the handbrake has been let off completely and the big businesses are absolutely taking the pee with everything and getting away with it

 

[Greythundercloudys]

What was fuel & fertiliser in 2010? And what were sheep and cattle prices?