Silage pit slipping

[Billydooker]

Have had a bit of bother of the last couple of years with silage pits slipping and causing a fair bit of waste. Got a good guy on the pit, it's not coming in too quick either. We've a claas 830 with the 24 knife drum, was thinking of trying a half set of knives to length chop a bit to help?
Anyone tried this?

 

[Will Blackburn]

They don't slip unless the grass is too wet?

 

[Billydooker]

Haven't had it tested but its not wet by any means

 

[O'Reilly]

Someone told me powerstart makes clamps slip, no idea if its true

 

[Billydooker]

We didn't use an additive this year as we were blaming that for last years slipping issues. It's not a massive problem but I'd say we could have wasted 5/10% last year from the pit slipping twice[emoji22][emoji848]

 

[sidjon]

Ours stopped slipping when we moved over to a forage wagon (longer chop rather than super short grass dust which came from SP )

 

[Beef farmer]

It's too wet

 

[wasted years]

I've only ever seen grass move when too wet, but it has to be pretty wet so you'd surely realise.

 

[Milkcow365]

It's too wet

Two of my pits slipped this year, I don't think it's wet @35dm just lifted a bit greener than usual with 4 cuts

 

[ploughman1963]

My lads lifted some very wet red clover/grass silage about 3 weeks ago with the wagons and some in bales. I saw it last night and was pleasantly pleased that the clamp looked stable, had very little effluent running and had fermented well (already opened to feed young stock) - the longer chop does seem to make the clamp more stable but also there are less cut ends of grass for the juice to exit the leaves/stems so less effluent / less grass juice in the effluent

 

[Water Wheel]

Got a good guy on the pit, it's not coming in too quick either.

We get a bit some years, often wonder if we are over rolling, getting a very smooth and perhaps a bit steep ramp between layers, so no grip between layers. We have stopped giving it a good roll in the morning , before starting to pick up again, doing our own so takes 2-4 days per cut.

 

[multi power]

We get a bit some years, often wonder if we are over rolling, getting a very smooth and perhaps a bit steep ramp between layers, so no grip between layers. We have stopped giving it a good roll in the morning , before starting to pick up again, doing our own so takes 2-4 days per cut.

Rolling it in the morning, before picking up is one of the worst thing you can do, just gets more air in, when buckraking always make sure yesterday's grass is covered with a fresh layer before driving on it

 

[awkward]

when I worked with local contractor .we had full set knives in . we had pits split up the middle ..some moved a few feet if it was wet. we removed half the knives and problem solved.

 

[awkward]

remember to re balance the flywheel/drum when doing this

 

[matthew]

Very wide pits can be a problem too.
Agree chop length plus clamp management too.

 

[Billydooker]

Where the pit slipped it does have a slope to it which I'm wondering if that was where we finished one night and it got say an hours rolling before new grass being put on the next day? Then with it being so well rolled on the slope it didn't bond with the fresh grass the following day? I could be talking complete dung but just a thought[emoji848] [emoji23]

 

[Nearly]

Don't roll before nee grass goes on. Was told it just forces fresh air into it.

 

[Suckndiesel]

How high is the pit face billydooker?

 

[Billydooker]

How high is the pit face billydooker?

I'd say probably 22foot high

 

[O'Reilly]

Where the pit slipped it does have a slope to it which I'm wondering if that was where we finished one night and it got say an hours rolling before new grass being put on the next day? Then with it being so well rolled on the slope it didn't bond with the fresh grass the following day? I could be talking complete dung but just a thought[emoji848] [emoji23]

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