Silage slippage

[Milk_man]

Wondering if any one has found away to
Stop silage slippage. My 1st cut has slipped the last few years even tho it’s 30 +% dry matter

 

[Pennine Ploughing]

How are you getting it out

 

[Milk_man]

With a shear grab

 

[Pennine Ploughing]

With a shear grab

Only thing I can suggest is, step it back a bit at the top then

 

[Milk_man]

Tried stepping it back and also tried trying to make the face a half moon shape but make no difference.

 

[Dragon]

Longer chop,
What additive, if any do you use?

 

[tr250]

How was it chopped and put in the clamp. I think some of the self propelled foragers are designed for ad plants now so very fine chop. Was it rolled properly

 

[Milk_man]

It’s chopped with forage harvester at 21mm as long as it with go. Had a compactor in pit this year and still slipped

 

[Agriimark]

A longer chop and rolled better in thiner layers.

 

[Milk_man]

Longer chop,
What additive, if any do you use?

It was pioneer this year. Tried safesail slipped surf Both

 

[tr250]

It’s chopped with forage harvester at 21mm as long as it with go. Had a compactor in pit this year and still slipped

21mm is bleddy short that could be your problem we use a trailed forager and I think it would be double that but fairly un precise depends on time of day type of grass and when I sharpen it. In fairness this is second cut but we’ve never had it slip yet

 

[DaveGrohl]

Wondering if any one has found away to
Stop silage slippage. My 1st cut has slipped the last few years even tho it’s 30 +% dry matter

What D value are you cutting at? We’ve only ever had a clamp slip once in my time (because it was wet stuff) but we’ve never been obsessed with being first out of the blocks. I hear of dairy farmers’ pits slipping all the time round here. I always assume it‘s because they’re going too early. If you’ve no structural fibre in the grass then you’re always going to be on a sticky wicket. 30% DM and 21mm chop length is NOT a recipe for slippage so something else is going on.

 

[Milk_man]

What D value are you cutting at? We’ve only ever had a clamp slip once in my time (because it was wet stuff) but we’ve never been obsessed with being first out of the blocks. I hear of dairy farmers’ pits slipping all the time round here. I always assume it‘s because they’re going too early. If you’ve no structural fibre in the grass then you’re always going to be on a sticky wicket. 30% DM and 21mm chop length is NOT a recipe for slippage so something else is going on.

It’s 76-78D value. It was early cut not much fibre in it. But cows milk well off it

 

[betweenthelines]

Bale it instead.

 

[Bury the Trash]

What D value are you cutting at? We’ve only ever had a clamp slip once in my time (because it was wet stuff) but we’ve never been obsessed with being first out of the blocks. I hear of dairy farmers’ pits slipping all the time round here. I always assume it‘s because they’re going too early. If you’ve no structural fibre in the grass then you’re always going to be on a sticky wicket. 30% DM and 21mm chop length is NOT a recipe for slippage so something else is going on.

even so, it doesn't need to be that short.

 

[Speedstar]

This is good question, had this once or twice and the answer the SAC came up with was the high oil content in the grass , so we did few trials with them and chop length and how compact in the pit it was made very little difference ,the D/M and oil content were the main factors in it ,some slides forward a meter or more and you don't know it has moved until you stand on the Silage sheet ,all very good Silage and the only other factor was it had never been grazed in the winter

 

[DaveGrohl]

It’s 76-78D value. It was early cut not much fibre in it. But cows milk well off it

Sounds like my comments were valid then. It’s plenty dry enough, so other than maybe lengthening chop length by using a different contractor (?) there’s really no answer and it’ll just happen from time to time. Would it be sooo bad to delay cutting by a day or two? Only other question could relate to the type of grass you’re cutting?

 

[Sheep]

What height is the pit?

 

[Skintagain]

You can’t stack very rich silage high it will just slip as the layers start getting ramped up so gravity takes Over

 

[Speedstar]

You can’t stack very rich silage high it will just slip as the layers start getting ramped up so gravity takes Over

I have seen it move at 5 ft deep