Silage / Straw / Hay Price Tracker

[som farmer]

now is the time to buy hay if you have stock on. People won’t be bagging hard this year so next winter will likely be a different story again.

thats terrible. How can he think that is right. The only way he could value it for the customer is to see it. He would then know if it was worth entering for the reserve wanted etc.

the auctioneers who work the hardest, take the trouble to look at what they have to sell, not only fodder, but walk through the market pens, etc, these are the ones that earn the respect, the others expect respect ! A good auctioneer keeps the trade at the 'right' level, to high for the buyers, but to low for the sellers !

 

[Sid]

the auctioneers who work the hardest, take the trouble to look at what they have to sell, not only fodder, but walk through the market pens, etc, these are the ones that earn the respect, the others expect respect ! A good auctioneer keeps the trade at the 'right' level, to high for the buyers, but to low for the sellers !

Always makes me laugh when a certain mature auctioneer round here doesn't know wtf he is selling. Does it all the time!
He also nearly killed himself and half the crowd once by starting a mf135 stood next to it. He joked by saying it shouldn't have started unless it was in neutral. NO you shouldn't have started not sat in the seat!

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Its up to the customer/ buyer to look at the fodder . The auctioneer will speak to the seller so will have an idea even if he has no seen it , but makes no odds does it . The price will reflect the quality

 

[Werzle]

Its up to the customer/ buyer to look at the fodder . The auctioneer will speak to the seller so will have an idea even if he has no seen it , but makes no odds does it . The price will reflect the quality

Usually the bidding tells an auctioneer how in demand and how good the lot is, auctioneer cannot make a silk purse out of a sows ear. Its a buyers year for selling fodder , end of.

 

[Sid]

Its up to the customer/ buyer to look at the fodder . The auctioneer will speak to the seller so will have an idea even if he has no seen it , but makes no odds does it . The price will reflect the quality

Usually the bidding tells an auctioneer how in demand and how good the lot is, auctioneer cannot make a silk purse out of a sows ear. Its a buyers year for selling fodder , end of.

So why bother with an auctioneer then? If the customers are going to value it?
Why not put it on faceache and take the 1st offer you get.

Auctioneer is there to get the most as possible without it being given away.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

So why bother with an auctioneer then? If the customers are going to value it?
Why not put it on faceache and take the 1st offer you get.

Auctioneer is there to get the most as possible without it being given away.

Thats what they do . But they dont normally use two bidders in a year like this , of the human form anyhow . Most lots are sold against you and the wall. But you will find with auctions that they devalue the price when its plentiful. And hike the price when its short . As two idiots with no sense will bid the price up and that becomes thevnext norm . Power Stations have it right on straw but livestock farmers would never have it . They would be happy to pay contract prices when its short but in a year of plenty they would desert the contract ship without a 2cd thought

 

[Sid]

Thats what they do . But they dont normally use two bidders in a year like this , of the human form anyhow . Most lots are sold against you and the wall. But you will find with auctions that they devalue the price when its plentiful. And hike the price when its short . As two idiots with no sense will bid the price up and that becomes thevnext norm . Power Stations have it right on straw but livestock farmers would never have it . They would be happy to pay contract prices when its short but in a year of plenty they would desert the contract ship without a 2cd thought

Power stations have their margins protected.
Farmers are at the whim of the market.

BiG difference.
Could say same about straw dealers bumping up prices. We have never run out of straw in the UK have we?

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Power stations have their margins protected.
Farmers are at the whim of the market.

BiG difference.
Could say same about straw dealers bumping up prices. We have never run out of straw in the UK have we?

Farmers have contracts with power stations at a sesible price which they are happy to stick to . None of this £100 /ton one year £35 the next
And its not straw dealers who bump the price up . Most work on a very small margin as the competition is massive from other dealers

 

[Sid]

Farmers have contracts with power stations at a sesible price which they are happy to stick to . None of this £100 /ton one year £35 the next
And its not straw dealers who bump the price up . Most work on a very small margin as the competition is massive from other dealers

Exactly BUT the power stations have fixed income. The price they sell for is done on forward pricing.
What percentage of Famers do that? Very few so they need to watch their input prices and trade accordingly.

So your saying that straw dealers,like yourself, don't increase the price if they have bought a large amount forward and the price rises? It called market forces. Pull the other one it's got bells on it!

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Exactly BUT the power stations have fixed income. The price they sell for is done on forward pricing.
What percentage of Famers do that? Very few so they need to watch their input prices and trade accordingly.

So your saying that straw dealers,like yourself, don't increase the price if they have bought a large amount forward and the price rises? It called market forces. Pull the other one it's got bells on it!

I never buy a lot forward so cant coment on that . Dont turn back into the nasty poster you once was

 

[Sid]

I never buy a lot forward so cant coment on that . Dont turn back into the nasty poster you once was

If you don't buy forward then you can't comment fair enough.
So it's the farmers who are happy with the power stations price but like to follow the market with straw to the dealers and farmers.

So the selling farmers bump the price up. We as livestock farmers just have to take it?


Less of the personal attack thankyou. It's not nice and not needed!

 

[Derrick Hughes]

If you don't buy forward then you can't comment fair enough.
So it's the farmers who are happy with the power stations price but like to follow the market with straw to the dealers and farmers.

So the selling farmers bump the price up. We as livestock farmers just have to take it?


Less of the personal attack thankyou. It's not nice and not needed!

Be intersting to work out the ex farm price to livestock farmers baled and loaded over the last 5 years . I would suspect its a good £20/ ton more than power stations pay on Contract

 

[Sid]

Be intersting to work out the ex farm price to livestock farmers baled and loaded over the last 5 years . I would suspect its a good £20/ ton more than power stations pay on Contract

That much?
That would be nearly double the price in some parts?

It's the haulage that kills it

 

[Derrick Hughes]

That much?
That would be nearly double the price in some parts?

It's the haulage that kills it

Must be up over £70 in those Dorset farm auctions now

 

[snipe]

conventional bales of barley straw £2:25 and large square or round bales also available from £22/bale. wakefield area. 1 mile from M1 J40. 07887992285. Could deliver.

 

[D14]

conventional bales of barley straw £2:25 and large square or round bales also available from £22/bale. wakefield area. 1 mile from M1 J40. 07887992285. Could deliver.

How accurate is the FW weekly straw and hay prices?

 

[Derrick Hughes]

How accurate is the FW weekly straw and hay prices?

If yoh post last weeks prices we can comment. I never buy the thing
But pricing fodder is a nightmare isn't it

 

[Fen girl]

I’ve got one load (approx 80) min Heston 4 string. good barn stored straw.
north Cambridge just off a14

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Wheat or barley

 

[Clever Dic]

Anyone selling barn stored rape or linseed straw please get in touch.
PM me I would prefer square but would consider round if not the other end of the country.