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4course

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Location
north yorks
I have 500 acres of WB on the floor, it looks 10 days from a forecast to get it baled and wheat and SB will be cutting before we bale any WB I think.
more than likely the straw buyer will look with disdain at your so called by product by then .(im just sharing my experience ) which could mean youve got a disposal problem which many cant seem to grasp and wonder why some folks chop
 
Location
Devon
im not sure you grasp the arable mans viewpoint , which is ---The crop to be harvested in the next couple of weeks is a bloody nuisance and in the way of getting next years off to a clean flying start and straw is either to be shifted asap i.e behind combine or will be returned whence it came

And you do not seem to grasp its still July!

Your comments would be 100% correct if it was the 1st of Sept tomorrow but it is only the first of Aug Tomorrow.

If you and the likes of Thorpe were a dairy/sheep farmer and your cows/ewes were due to calve/lamb from the first of Feb and they had all not finished calving by the 31st of Jan you would be calling your calving/lambing season a disaster before it should have even started.

And that is what some arable farmers on here are doing!

And of course in puntabravas case its in his intrest to panic livestock farmers and try and claim there will be a shortage of straw before the harvest should have really got going!
 

thorpe

Member
im not wrighting anything off we have all been there before , but i guess the guy who sold you your straw which was down for weeks had dropped the chopper!
 
Location
Devon
im not wrighting anything off we have all been there before , but i guess the guy who sold you your straw which was down for weeks had dropped the chopper!

Nope one year it was cut the last few days of Aug, another year middle of Sept etc..

Yet the straw got baled in the end and wheat/barley still got drilled in a timely fashion for the next harvest!

I would totally understand if we were in the current sitiuation at the end of August but for puntbrava etc to be saying the harvest is a write off in July is a complete and utter nonsense!
 

Sid

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
South Molton
70 minutes until its August then it will be
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Location
Devon
Lots of people were wanting to see if something new came along
in the fight against the beetles but the general feeling is to drill as early
as possible or very late .

Did some farms not put a seeder on the back of the combine and spread OSR on all the wheat stubble the last couple of years with the thinking they will just keep the best bits but not much money spent if it failed??

What is the lastest you can realistically try to grow OSR?

Utter nonsense imo these stupid rules stopping farmers spraying etc for flea beetle in OSR.

And now we have the stupid and totally unworkable autumn manure spreading ban to contend with!

The people in power have not one iota of a clue imo!
 

4course

Member
Location
north yorks
And you do not seem to grasp its still July!

Your comments would be 100% correct if it was the 1st of Sept tomorrow but it is only the first of Aug Tomorrow.

If you and the likes of Thorpe were a dairy/sheep farmer and your cows/ewes were due to calve/lamb from the first of Feb and they had all not finished calving by the 31st of Jan you would be calling your calving/lambing season a disaster before it should have even started.

And that is what some arable farmers on here are doing!

And of course in puntabravas case its in his intrest to panic livestock farmers and try and claim there will be a shortage of straw before the harvest should have really got going!
ha ,im well aware of what time of the year/day it is cos for an arable farmer this coming month is the make or break time for both the current year and the next , im well aware of the problems caused by lying straw or bales in the field even in july . Our winter barley is hardly ripe ,its also raining the osr is not far off ready to cut ,if and when dry enough .To to be reasonably confident of establishing next years osr crop following w b we should ideally have it in the ground by the 12th, im looking at 5-6 days combining im also looking at 5-6 days inclement weather should I risk either last years or next years crop by holding the job up for a marginal £ in straw ? and that is the conundrum mindst we will endeavour to make a bay or three of so called idiot bricks for our own sale/use but will we or wont we chop the remainder ?
 

lloyd

Member
Location
Herefordshire
Did some farms not put a seeder on the back of the combine and spread OSR on all the wheat stubble the last couple of years with the thinking they will just keep the best bits but not much money spent if it failed??

What is the lastest you can realistically try to grow OSR?

Utter nonsense imo these stupid rules stopping farmers spraying etc for flea beetle in OSR.

And now we have the stupid and totally unworkable autumn manure spreading ban to contend with!

The people in power have not one iota of a clue imo!
Not many seed off the combine as its unreliable and hybrid seed is expensive.
You can grow hybrid rape as late as mid Sep but conventional wants to be in by late August.It's the neonic seed dressing that got banned which was very effective against the beetles ,you can still spray insecticide against them but the target aim is to hit the beetles which seem to only come out in numbers at anti social times of day.
It's no where near as effective as the seed treatment and can take multiple passes.
Farmers are now using companion crops or going very early so the OSR plant grows
quickly away and hopefully the beetle numbers are less than a fortnight later.
 
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