Silotite penny pinching rant

[v8willy]

We have been baling contractors for the past 30 odd years & in that time, other than the odd sample or trial roll every bale has been wrapped with silotite.

A few weeks back the brother went to our supplier for another pallet, as he has done for years. As soon as he got it out on to the main road the pallet started to sway from side to side, so much so he crawled home with the jeep & trailer.

The problem is silotite, in their cost cutting wisdom are now using less shrink wrap on the pallet, but more importantly have done away with 4 little bits of cardboard on the corners, which held the top and bottom layer of rolls together. A bit like angle iron.

When I lifted it off the trailer to put it in the shed this happened.

Luckily enough the only thing killed was a barbecue, hate to think what could of happened if a child or pet had been there!....all for the want of a bit of cardboard & shrink wrap.

 

[Courier]

Probably got an apprentice on the job of stacking and wrapping the pallet.

Would prefer to see nylon strapping around the boxes BEFORE shrink wrapping for proper stability.

Send a pic to their customer services or put it on their FB page.

 

[ProDrive]

They've done well wrapping that, four wide on the top, only two on the bottom??

 

[Northeastfarmer]

I can't believe for one second that they've tried to cut corners by reducing packing with a few bits of cardboard...

Probably a genuine mistake

 

[Keepitsimple26]

Check it wasn't re-stacked by the supplier. Common practice as there are loads of smaller collect sales done at depot leaving odds and ends.
Had a factory tour at their plant a couple of years back and quality standards were exceptional so very unlikely unless something's changed.

 

[balerman]

Does anyone else find that Silotite does less bales per roll than it used to.Always used to do 33 bales,but it got down to around 30 over a few years(same wrapper) never had a problem with it,but went back to Unterland which does 32/roll and is the most consistent wrap ive ever used.

 

[beefandsleep]

Does anyone else find that Silotite does less bales per roll than it used to.Always used to do 33 bales,but it got down to around 30 over a few years(same wrapper) never had a problem with it,but went back to Unterland which does 32/roll and is the most consistent wrap ive ever used.

How many layers/turns of wrap are you using.
I'm getting 24 a roll with farmfilm at 6 layers, which is 21 turns of the wrapper. It's a JDc440r

 

[balerman]

How many layers/turns of wrap are you using.
I'm getting 24 a roll with farmfilm at 6 layers, which is 21 turns of the wrapper. It's a JDc440r

That would be 4 layers/16 turns,but mainly 6 layers now,12 turns on twin dispenser wrapper.

 

[v8willy]

They've done well wrapping that, four wide on the top, only two on the bottom??

I had some of it lifted at that stage.

 

[v8willy]

Probably got an apprentice on the job of stacking and wrapping the pallet.

Would prefer to see nylon strapping around the boxes BEFORE shrink wrapping for proper stability.

Send a pic to their customer services or put it on their FB page.

The supplier said the whole load was like that, some pallets were even worse.

I can't believe for one second that they've tried to cut corners by reducing packing with a few bits of cardboard...

Probably a genuine mistake

Don't know, time will tell but if it continues as is they will have one less customer.

Check it wasn't re-stacked by the supplier. Common practice as there are loads of smaller collect sales done at depot leaving odds and ends.
Had a factory tour at their plant a couple of years back and quality standards were exceptional so very unlikely unless something's changed.

It wasn't, they only split 1 pallet at a time for anyone looking a few rolls.

 

[Andrew1983]

The pallet I got this year was same, it never quite got as bad as yours but on way into our shed from trailer there is a slight incline, the whole pallet was going to go over until I dropped boom to the deck, had to push the top rolls back into place and realign the pallet forks to get them into the shed. They have always been perfect other years even moving over quite rough ground.

 

[Grassman]

https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/bale-wrap-pallets.173670/
I had the same problem. Mine got swopped by mole valley. They had a lot of issues.

 

[Grassman]

The manufacturer blamed the haulier in our case. Rubbish. It had one thin layer of cardboard. No corner supports and very little clingfilm.
Used to come with chipboard between the rolls and on top.

 

[kill]

I had this full pallet of netwrap turn up in my yard for delivery 6 weeks ago and the driver got well nasty and mouthy when I told him I would not be unloading as his curtain sider was buldged by 18 inches and he wanted to open it and the top rolls would be around 12ft from the floor and unsecured. I did tell him that I was the H&S advisor for my business and no way was that to be unloaded in my yard and luckily when he got seriously mouthy his boss agreed with me.

 

[Courier]

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I had this full pallet of netwrap turn up in my yard for delivery 6 weeks ago and the driver got well nasty and mouthy when I told him I would not be unloading as his curtain sider was buldged by 18 inches and he wanted to open it and the top rolls would be around 12ft from the floor and unsecured. I did tell him that I was the H&S advisor for my business and no way was that to be unloaded in my yard and luckily when he got seriously mouthy his boss agreed with me.

Quite right not to attempt unloading as a pallet - needs handballing by driver on to a few more pallets which you as the regular receiver of palletised goods should be able to supply.
No need to blame the driver who has been loaded with an unstable pallet.

Sh1t happens and the quickest and usually the best way of resolving this sort of problem is to work together.

 

[kill]

Quite right not to attempt unloading as a pallet - needs handballing by driver on to a few more pallets which you as the regular receiver of palletised goods should be able to supply.
No need to blame the driver who has been loaded with an unstable pallet.

Sh1t happens and the quickest and usually the best way of resolving this sort of problem is to work together.

I'd just had major spinal surgery so couldn't lift and driver turned proper nasty so best for all to send away?

 

[Northeastfarmer]

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I had this full pallet of netwrap turn up in my yard for delivery 6 weeks ago and the driver got well nasty and mouthy when I told him I would not be unloading as his curtain sider was buldged by 18 inches and he wanted to open it and the top rolls would be around 12ft from the floor and unsecured. I did tell him that I was the H&S advisor for my business and no way was that to be unloaded in my yard and luckily when he got seriously mouthy his boss agreed with me.

A gobby nasty driver would make me even less cooperative

 

[Courier]

That tall pallet of rolls should never have left the factory like that - Could have easily and cheaply have been stabilised by nylon strapping "X" braced through centre of bottom left roll then centre of top right roll and vice-versa.

Should be stacked to withstand ferry crossings and rough treatment by dock shunters.

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[Grassman]

That tall pallet of rolls should never have left the factory like that - Could have easily and cheaply have been stabilised by nylon strapping "X" braced through centre of bottom left roll then centre of top right roll and vice-versa.

Should be stacked to withstand ferry crossings and rough treatment by dock shunters.

They actually blamed the hauliers with mine! It was to a degree as the pallet was just stood on its own in the middle and not really strapped down. If it was up against the headboard with a strap it would of been ok. I don't think the drivers get a say in how the lorry is loaded though.

 

[llamedos]

Perhaps an email to Minster Films & copy in Silotite. asking them to review their packing/handling/forwarding procedures.