Simba double press with leading tines

[JCfarmer]

Could the leading tines be altered to low disturbance and work at 150mm deep straight into stubble? Would the tine holders be strong enough? It wouldn't have to be pulled above 8km say especially if 4.6 or 5.5m wide. Just a thought and maybe in the wrong section. Thanks

 

[sticky]

I've got a 3.8m for sale if you'd like to try that, just outside Stratford.

 

[Howdenshire Farmer]

Could the leading tines be altered to low disturbance and work at 150mm deep straight into stubble? Would the tine holders be strong enough? It wouldn't have to be pulled above 8km say especially if 4.6 or 5.5m wide. Just a thought and maybe in the wrong section. Thanks

In a previous life I tried one straight into stubble with normal points (on the rigid tines a.o.t the springy ones). The stubble just hung on the tines and blocked it. Not enough distance between the 2 rows of tines. If the straw was baled and the stubble cut short it may have been ok.

 

[Spud]

I tried a similar idea with a knight version of the same machine - sapped horsepower like nothing else and blocked up for fun

 

[timmyboy]

Could the leading tines be altered to low disturbance and work at 150mm deep straight into stubble? Would the tine holders be strong enough? It wouldn't have to be pulled above 8km say especially if 4.6 or 5.5m wide. Just a thought and maybe in the wrong section. Thanks

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Same as @Howdenshire Farmer but with single tines on a Cousins tine press.It just drives in the straw and stubble and makes a mess.

 

[chickens and wheat]

Blocks around the tines attached to drawbar

 

[JCfarmer]

Thanks for replies, if they were low disturbance legs/points straight on to stubble? Something like micro wing cousins design or a metcalfe point. As I said just a thought but there are some reasonably priced simba presses for sale but waste of money if it doesn't work.

 

[clodshopper]

leading discs would help, I think you would struggle with anything less than 50cm centres on two rows as I have found a Cultivating Solutions rapid lift to be on the verge of blocking in chopped straw.

 

[JCfarmer]

It wouldn't be working in chopped straw, straw baled but muck spread on some which would be carrier'd if needed.

 

[chickens and wheat]

could work well if you can ensure clearance round drawbar in my opinion

 

[Howdenshire Farmer]

It wouldn't be working in chopped straw, straw baled but muck spread on some which would be carrier'd if needed.

If the stubble is short (<6") then it would probably be OK in that scenario. Limits the machines flexibility though.
Are you thinking of making a seeder out of it?
It could over- consolidate if the ground is on the wet side.

 

[Fish]

I have done this, in spring 2013, when after winter we had drilled almost no winter crops and in spring were faced with just stubble fields, many containing chopped wheat straw. I took out every other tine on the cultipress and went over each field twice giving the field time to dry between each pass and only working around 7-10 cm.
Crops were then drilled with a pronto drill, drilling Spring barley, peas, Spring rape, Spring oats and spring wheat, all the grew ok and yielded well.
I think we were luck with the weather as Spring 13 was dry, if it had been wet then this approach may not have worked.

 

[JCfarmer]

Opening this up again, what spacing would you say a cousins micro wing needed to do a good enough job of low disturbance loosening when working at 6" deep? How many over 5m, 15 legs perhaps or more?

 

[average farmer]

Opening this up again, what spacing would you say a cousins micro wing needed to do a good enough job of low disturbance loosening when working at 6" deep? How many over 5m, 15 legs perhaps or more?

I run these on our Simba free flow. They are metcalf bg mini subsoiler legs, ottomh I think they’re set at 440 mm (only the back row) never had any problems with blocking.

They work well for planting osr. I do at some point want to try it with the full set in with a drilling tine putting seed in behind as a strip till drill.

 

[warksfarmer]

Could the leading tines be altered to low disturbance and work at 150mm deep straight into stubble? Would the tine holders be strong enough? It wouldn't have to be pulled above 8km say especially if 4.6 or 5.5m wide. Just a thought and maybe in the wrong section. Thanks

They block up and the tines bend.