Simba free-flow direct drill

Terrier

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Lincs
Will be very interesting to see how it goes, thanks for posting. Can’t quite tell from the photos, but how are your brackets held on to the box section of the drill frame?
 

farmerman

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Leicestershire
Some of the final stages to the drill being finished was to add some see through pipeing to make it easy to see if vis ooenervhad become blocked was fairly straight forward but quite awkrawd to get measurements rite to have enough adjustment to move the vos further in the ground we also found some very useful plastic connections for 2 pipes comeing into one these were very cheap at only a £1 each and seem an excellent solution
 

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farmerman

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After securing all pipeing on that was fairly much the last major job to do apart from small little bits and bobs to finish off. We also made sure the drill was lifted rite up on the adjusters before cutting leg at rite length and had them all way up on bravkets were pin goes through secureing leg meaning we have around 14 inch of adjustment on depth off vos opener not what this is needed but why we was doing it thought have the max we could get. Also to get the best trash flow we could in keeping the drill up high should mean the flow of trash flows better. Also stageing the legs and makeing full use of the frame in 3 rows should help with this dramatically to that’s the theory anyway 🤔
 
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farmerman

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Leicestershire
Few last photos of drill together will take more of drill down and completely finished now and if anyone wants to see how we done some things in more detail I will be more than happy to explain and send a photo..overall was an enjoyable project and a lot of time was more took up in the design process than actually putting together but overall real happy with how it has turned out
 

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farmerman

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Leicestershire
Definitely interested to see how it goes,I have a 3m Freeflow and have just priced up some Metcalfe tines to try some reduced toll or direct drilling but your idea with 250mom spacing sounds attractive.
Keep posting the pictures.
Yes we was looking at all routes and that
Was a route we thought about but spaceing was no where near enough what we wanted and personally the leg strength isn’t the best on a freeflow so think that needs changeing anyway. Interring what price was the met calfe tines all in if you don’t mind me asking
 

Badshot

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Location
Kent
Some of the final stages to the drill being finished was to add some see through pipeing to make it easy to see if vis ooenervhad become blocked was fairly straight forward but quite awkrawd to get measurements rite to have enough adjustment to move the vos further in the ground we also found some very useful plastic connections for 2 pipes comeing into one these were very cheap at only a £1 each and seem an excellent solution
The clear pipe will go seed dressing colour quite quickly
I thought the original pipes were red, fitted new clear thinking what a good idea it was, it went red very quickly.

Looks good 👍
 

alomy75

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Nice build. If you’re using the front tines (which is a great idea-readily available spares etc) what was the price of the laser cut brackets compared to the aftermarket ones you can buy from agrilinc etc? I’ve often wondered about using the the front tines as coulters and leave them where they are-they rarely bung in the front so although there’s only 2 rows it would be an easy dip-your-foot-in to DD using your brackets to hold vos/Dutch/metcalfe on...I counted once but can’t remember exactly...think there’s 18/19 on a 4m.
 
Few last photos of drill together will take more of drill down and completely finished now and if anyone wants to see how we done some things in more detail I will be more than happy to explain and send a photo..overall was an enjoyable project and a lot of time was more took up in the design process than actually putting together but overall real happy with how it has turned out

May I ask where you got the 'y' pieces please?
 

farmerman

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Location
Leicestershire
Nice build. If you’re using the front tines (which is a great idea-readily available spares etc) what was the price of the laser cut brackets compared to the aftermarket ones you can buy from agrilinc etc? I’ve often wondered about using the the front tines as coulters and leave them where they are-they rarely bung in the front so although there’s only 2 rows it would be an easy dip-your-foot-in to DD using your brackets to hold vos/Dutch/metcalfe on...I counted once but can’t remember exactly...think there’s 18/19 on a 4m.
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We used the same adaptor plate which lets the vos openers fit on to the standard horsch multi grip leg tine vos provided.

we then got two adaptors plates matched and made to fit the vos adaptor. I’ll get you a photo.

these where then welded onto the recycled simba leg and welded in a homemade jig to get the same exact length distance.

think our laser cut adaptor 6mm plate cost £2 each.
 
Would echo the comments earlier, this is the Freeflow model to get- the ones with the wire scraper and the later type of tyres. Should be a fair few 6m versions about as well. For the very modest costs involved I would be tempted to strip the thing back and respray the main frame after fitting the new brackets. These were awesome drills in their day but I was surprised they were never sold directly by the manufacturer as a direct drill as the design could have been altered at the factory very very simply.
 

alomy75

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Would echo the comments earlier, this is the Freeflow model to get- the ones with the wire scraper and the later type of tyres. Should be a fair few 6m versions about as well. For the very modest costs involved I would be tempted to strip the thing back and respray the main frame after fitting the new brackets. These were awesome drills in their day but I was surprised they were never sold directly by the manufacturer as a direct drill as the design could have been altered at the factory very very simply.
Think Simba wanted too hence the few prototypes floating around with less/winged coulters but then Horsch came along...
 

Adeptandy

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Arable Farmer
Location
PE15
Excellent in the dry/damp, right pain when its wet. having had wire scrapers and the angle iron conversion drills, I'd get some nice heavy angle to replace the wire scrapers ;)

Nice job on the conversion (y)
 

farmerman

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Location
Leicestershire
so a update, drill went as hoped, and seemed to cope fairly well, as eveyone else's barely only just emeagring in my part of leicestershire.

due to some of my land being on clay brick land, im thinking i need to incorapte some sort of front opening leg to create some form of tilth. so then the seed opening leg will have a easier time.

so im moving more towards strip till drilling simliar concept to mzuri pro till/claydon hydrbid/vaderstad seed hawk .

what im thinking again is to use the orginal front freeflow toolbar, again as before the same simba freeflow legs and move the welded on frame brackets along the tool bar to be exactly in front of my seeding legs.

have people got any thoughts on what could be a nice cheap low disturbance foot to put on in front of my vos double seed opners. Im thinking something like a cousins microwing. any ideas thoughts would be appreicated
 
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North Notts
I did the same thing but on a 3 m. i found it easier to move the seeding tine to suit the front leg, using every other one for osr and every one for wheat. We used the metcalfe BG leg think I've a couple still here i could get a picture if you like .
 

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