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- Shropshire
Then how about doing away with the front roller to make way for discs, and just add some depth wheels if needed?
Simba freeflow - Simtech conversion
- Thread starter Captain Mainwaring
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Then how about doing away with the front roller to make way for discs, and just add some depth wheels if needed?
normandyfarmer
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- Saint Valéry en Caux, France
http://www.agriaffaires.com/occasion/semoir-direct/11368028/simba-free-flow-4m.html
good or bad deal ? Is the seller on TFF ?
good or bad deal ? Is the seller on TFF ?
Captain Mainwaring
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- E. Sussex
This idea was something I did consider but I think I've found a way to fit some to the existing toolbar. Probably in a similar vein to the discs found on the Mzuri rezult but with the discs in pairs and mounted on a rotating box section. Pretty much in the same way that the adjustable paddles work on a cultipress.
Captain Mainwaring
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- E. Sussex
Doesn't look to be in bad nick, bar the obvious bits on the rear. Interesting addition of the donkey engine on the front though, not seen one of them before. I did pick mine up considerably cheaper but that may have been luck as much as anything.
Warp Land Farmer
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- Hazzard County
Tidy job, are you happy with the establishment now we're into the winter?
How do you control the seeding depth?
How do you control the seeding depth?
Captain Mainwaring
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- E. Sussex
I'm happy enough with establishment though plants are smaller and numbers maybe 5-10% fewer than their conventionally drilled neighbours.
Depth control is via removable stops on the front and rear rollers which is fine but does require an even surface to be consistent.
Depth control is via removable stops on the front and rear rollers which is fine but does require an even surface to be consistent.
- Location
- East Sussex
average farmer
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- North Notts
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- East Sussex
Would love to post a picture but for some reason I can't. Can anyone help? File size is OK. 
Tractor tom7480
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These discs are available ! The ones in the picture are double disc units but I think single disc unit would suit your machine set-up better. Bolts onto 70mm box section. Straight or wavy discs are options too. For cereals / stubbles I'd suggest wavy edge disc. Cost €180 each + shipping.
Hope this is a help.
Hope this is a help.
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- East Sussex
@average farmer
Back in business now. Wheat above is in the same field as earlier in this thread. Looks well but desperately needs water as do all our crops. Not rained for a month here.
I will try and get some of the wheat on another block that was dd and some spring Barley that should just be coming through. We haven't gone too mad with the dd as just finding out feet with it. We are very happy with results so far. Excellent results in the min till situations as well.
Back in business now. Wheat above is in the same field as earlier in this thread. Looks well but desperately needs water as do all our crops. Not rained for a month here.
I will try and get some of the wheat on another block that was dd and some spring Barley that should just be coming through. We haven't gone too mad with the dd as just finding out feet with it. We are very happy with results so far. Excellent results in the min till situations as well.
average farmer
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- North Notts
Captain Mainwaring
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- E. Sussex
Going from memory I think they turned out to be identical, or at least extremely close. That's going from the underside of the frame to the tip of the point.
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- East Sussex
We ended up with the 25mm coulter tines, we actually ordered the 30mm which were recommended but there was a manufacturing problem, the 25mm are not strong enough and can cause bunching and uneven seed depth. Some have bent as well.
We will be fitting the 30mm before autumn so should improve that somewhat and give us a more even stand.
@Tractor tom7480 what are those discs you have in that picture? They look like they might do the job.
We will be fitting the 30mm before autumn so should improve that somewhat and give us a more even stand.
@Tractor tom7480 what are those discs you have in that picture? They look like they might do the job.
Tractor tom7480
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Right.....! Google duncan co nz. They fit disc openers to the front of their drills. Bellotta make both discs. Prt no 2205. Duncan tines are triple coil & don't break.
I think you need a disc opener on your drill in front of each tine. It will minimise tine vibration & seeding dept inconsistency.
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- East Sussex
Metcalfe points will bolt straight onto the simba tines so very quick mod. The simtech points need to be fitted to their tines which require frame alterations to fit the pig tail spring in some places. Not massively onerous but comes down to how much faffing you want to do.
Very pleased with ours on simtech tines. Now we have the 30mm tines it's better again, seed placement is improved.
The dd trial wheat mentioned in the this thread earlier averaged 3.8t/a over the weigh bridge. This is exactly the same as the field next door which was conventionally sown. These two fields have always yielded identically so it has given us an idea of how the drill and dd in general may work for us.
I will get a picture of the osr dd into it when it's up!
Captain Mainwaring
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- E. Sussex
One thing I would be concerned about with the metcalfe points is poor trash flow due to the narrow row spacing. A standard freeflow has 8 tines/m, as opposed to the 6/m we have on our simtech conversion which can block in certain conditions. Adding front discs will probably help plus I will reduce the total tines from 24 to 22.
How much is the metcalfe point? How about using the simba tines but at 6 per metre or however many you want?