Simon reeve

[DRC]

sometime there will have to be rules, regs put down before anyone can walk, climb up these remote mountains? or can you, just go to these places, turn up, walk roam anywhere you like, dressed in what ever? then if any thing goes wrong someone has to then risk their own life to rescue you?

And if everyone was taking the wrong turn off the mountain into the ravine, still a bloody big illuminated sign up to say keep left or something. Also stop repairing the stone track, that would stop the flip flop brigade .

 

[le bon paysan]

Just got round to watching it on iPlayer last night. My licence fee boycott temporarily worked around by virtue of visiting my sister! More of this and I'll consider paying it again.

Graphic, uncompromising and accurate, it reminded me of a documentary years ago by Molly Dineen filmed in Cornwall just after F&M. Like Dineen, Reeve, gets the very best of people he's interviewing, by not making it about him and letting them tell their stories. First class.

Molly Dineens documentary is called The Lie of the Land. It's brilliant. It's on my shelf.

 

[Sonoftheheir]

Well this has gone off on a tangent.

Here’s some more, only took 300 people to get one guy out.

Powys caver tells of role in saving man trapped in Brecon Beacons

An expert caver from near Llanidloes led a 54-hour operation to rescue an injured man trapped inside the UK's deepest cave systems.

www.countytimes.co.uk

 

[beardface]

Re flood plains, yes traditionally farmers have had fields next to rivers that flood ( known as Hams down here). That is fine and should continue BUT towns and cities need to be responsible as well. Why do developers build and people buy houses on flood plains in towns and are then horrified/surprised when they get 3ft of water in their living room. Surely the name 'flood plain' gives a clue to what happens on that land.

Another of houses built on floodplains round here now the ea wants create new ones on good land. Bloody madness

 

[hally]

And if everyone was taking the wrong turn off the mountain into the ravine, still a bloody big illuminated sign up to say keep left or something. Also stop repairing the stone track, that would stop the flip flop brigade .

My thoughts exactly, if it is a notorious back spot a simple discreet warning sign.

 

[egbert]

I was very briefly involved in a local MR group. Very briefly. It mostly comprised of social misfits and weekend heroes itching for a chance to rescue a damsel in distress and get on the front page of the local rag.

Sounding very familiar.
Some bird they did have to rescue - or it might been training- needed warming up in a body bag or whatever it's called....the member keenest to climb in and share his body heat was - so the females of the parish tell me- about the last man on gods green earth they'd want!

 

[Robt]

Can't like this enough. They're generally owners of defenders with silly balloon tyres and billy bolt-on's ebay accessory store nailed to every orifice, just in case they fall foul of a kangaroo in Houndtor car park. As you say, just desperate to "rescue" someone so that they go home and regale their mum with the tales of heroism.

We're on the coast and unfortunately some of the volunteer coastguard fall into the same category, they were just born to wield a clipboard and be officious little tuds. A walker who's sneezed and tripped over her own fish paste sandwich does not warrant three pickups with flashy lights charging over my best silage field, or a call for a helicopter which is likely to send ermintrude galloping off the cliff top.

Obviously they're not all like this but sadly these lemsips give the rest a bad name.

Im a coastguard. What are you trying to say? but yea sadly there are a few like this! We have to justify use of blues every time now. We also massively respect access to peoples land on our patch.

 

[wr.]

Well this has gone off on a tangent.

Here’s some more, only took 300 people to get one guy out.

Powys caver tells of role in saving man trapped in Brecon Beacons

An expert caver from near Llanidloes led a 54-hour operation to rescue an injured man trapped inside the UK's deepest cave systems.

www.countytimes.co.uk

I believe that one of our members was one of the rescue team. @MOG

 

[Bertram]

Im a coastguard. What are you trying to say? but yea sadly there are a few like this! We have to justify use of blues every time now. We also massively respect access to peoples land on our patch.

Sorry, grumpy morning

I know it’s all done with the best of intentions but as you’ve clearly witnessed yourself, there’s a certain type of rescuer who would personally make me want to take a longer run up off the cliff!

 

[Robt]

Sorry, grumpy morning

I know it’s all done with the best of intentions but as you’ve clearly witnessed yourself, there’s a certain type of rescuer who would personally make me want to take a longer run up off the cliff!

Glady they are now all leaving as they don’t like all the rules and regs! Gone are the days of driving on blue lights and breaking all rules. We now have trackers and cannot break the speed limit! Most of the cowboys kicked up a fuss and left this summer!

 

[john 650]

Was really looking forward to it, after last week's episode, but sadly it slipped back into 'blame the farmer' mode.

What I saw of it, he specifically laboured the point that the river straightening wasn't "the farmer's fault", having been paid for by grant work- and laid the blame at the door of government policy at the time, to improve efficiency.

 

[FG.]

What I saw of it, he specifically laboured the point that the river straightening wasn't "the farmer's fault", having been paid for by grant work- and laid the blame at the door of government policy at the time, to improve efficiency.

I'd agree.
But the vast majority of the general public wouldn't of heard that.

 

[Bongodog]

Can't like this enough. They're generally owners of defenders with silly balloon tyres and billy bolt-on's ebay accessory store nailed to every orifice, just in case they fall foul of a kangaroo in Houndtor car park. As you say, just desperate to "rescue" someone so that they go home and regale their mum with the tales of heroism.

We're on the coast and unfortunately some of the volunteer coastguard fall into the same category, they were just born to wield a clipboard and be officious little tuds. A walker who's sneezed and tripped over her own fish paste sandwich does not warrant three pickups with flashy lights charging over my best silage field, or a call for a helicopter which is likely to send ermintrude galloping off the cliff top.

Obviously they're not all like this but sadly these lemsips give the rest a bad name.

On holiday in Cornwall and came across a volunteer coastguard post, firstly noticed a morbidly obese man rattling a collection tin in the main street.Later found their lookout post up on the cliffs, another large man inside looking out to sea with his binoculars. Due to the position of the post back from the cliff edge and the height of the cliffs, whilst he could clearly see the big boats and ships out to sea, the ones that have good radios, and are tracked via their locator beacons. He had no sight of the close in waters where the kayaks and paddleboards operate. It all struck me as completely pointless and only there to allow a few self important people to wear a uniform.

 

[egbert]

What I saw of it, he specifically laboured the point that the river straightening wasn't "the farmer's fault", having been paid for by grant work- and laid the blame at the door of government policy at the time, to improve efficiency.

true, but he (and this weeks featured characters) also loved the idea of anything 'wild'.

I was soon shouting at the screen to go and rewild some Tescos carparks before you start on farmland.

 

[Robt]

On holiday in Cornwall and came across a volunteer coastguard post, firstly noticed a morbidly obese man rattling a collection tin in the main street.Later found their lookout post up on the cliffs, another large man inside looking out to sea with his binoculars. Due to the position of the post back from the cliff edge and the height of the cliffs, whilst he could clearly see the big boats and ships out to sea, the ones that have good radios, and are tracked via their locator beacons. He had no sight of the close in waters where the kayaks and paddleboards operate. It all struck me as completely pointless and only there to allow a few self important people to wear a uniform.

Wasn’t that coast watch? HM coastguard is entirely government funded so they don’t collect money by rattling tins!

 

[Bongodog]

Wasn’t that coast watch? HM coastguard is entirely government funded so they don’t collect money by rattling tins!

Yes it would be Coastwatch, people who conveniently forget that the coastguard shut the station down as it was no loonger needed, and like to walk around in a uniform

 

[Steevo]

Living just outside Carlisle as i do, no amount of gently meandering rivers was going to prevent that flooding

Ag

Agreed
Its s load of pish

Re flood plains, yes traditionally farmers have had fields next to rivers that flood ( known as Hams down here). That is fine and should continue BUT towns and cities need to be responsible as well. Why do developers build and people buy houses on flood plains in towns and are then horrified/surprised when they get 3ft of water in their living room. Surely the name 'flood plain' gives a clue to what happens on that land.

Interesting to note that there are certainly biases that were not mentioned….the two “doctors” were part of a consultancy service.

Emperors new clothes…!

Redefining Environmental Consultancy | %

We are a unique consultancy service based within the University of Salford connecting environmental managers with academics for tailored solutions.

aquauos.salford.ac.uk

 

[Steevo]

I’d love to know how stunning a fish with an electric current doesn’t harm it at all. I doubt the humans involved would enjoy that process on them…

 

[Steevo]

I didn't see them blaming farmers, more the mechanisms that put crap land into production. You can't disagree that reducing floodplains upstream is going to increase the speed and volume of water downstream l.

They seemed to skip over the fact that other areas have been built on and all that water is now channeled into the rivers quickly with no floodplain available to use.

It’s laughable to see the “rewilding” or “re-wiggling” to slow the flows of water, that have reached the river naturally, whilst ignoring the man made influences of extra water further downstream that have increased the pressure.

Rivers existed by themselves long before humans started using them as drainage routes for our ultra urbanised areas.

There is nothing natural about a housing estate.

 

[Bury the Trash]

They seemed to skip over the fact that other areas have been built on and all that water is now channeled into the rivers quickly with no floodplain available to use.

It’s laughable to see the “rewilding” or “re-wiggling” to slow the flows of water, that have reached the river naturally, whilst ignoring the man made influences of extra water further downstream that have increased the pressure.

Rivers existed by themselves long before humans started using them as drainage routes for our ultra urbanised areas.

There is nothing natural about a housing estate.

or roads,theres no soakaways for them. look at the amount of water that runs off a motorway. or even what runs down a tarmac little byroad ,theyre like little rivers along the sides themselves after a lot of rain.
Railways are betterin that respect beeching didnt take that into consideration did he,no siree he sure didnt not do dat ding...the twonk.