Single Market / Customs Union - A Tragic Loss

le bon paysan

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Livestock Farmer
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Limousin, France
I think I speak for everyone when I say how shocked I am that a country which chose to leave the EU no longer receives EU investment money!
Anger in Sunderland as its funding is reduced outside EU. The North East received £437 million out of the European Structural Investment Fund (ESIF) pre-Brexit between 2014 & 2020 but the replacement UK Shared Prosperity Fund (SPF) looks to deliver significantly less.
 

le bon paysan

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Livestock Farmer
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Limousin, France

le bon paysan

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin, France
OMG.... my irony meter just broke
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Hindsight

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Lincolnshire
BREAKING: "European Research Group (ERG) finally catch on that what they deliberately and knowingly voted for a year ago was a pack of lies that they had told each other for the previous 5 years."

Well we know they are all liars, cheats, vandals, vagabonds and hoodlums, to man and woman.
 

Martin Holden

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Trade
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Cheltenham
Why are folk so surprised that the EU isn’t in any hurry or even minded to show any sympathy to the UK? We left, they didn’t want this didn’t think we’d vote leave and have caused a major groundswell of thinking among member states. If the UK can pull this off and thrive without any special treatment then the EU machine needs a route and channel re think. Get back to basics of trade and drop the United States of Europe pipe dream.
 

Ashtree

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Much ado about nothing. Mere window dressing, which will have no actual bearing on the protocol. Words to keep that Sammy lad, quiet for a while. The checks will go on.
 

Ashtree

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Why are folk so surprised that the EU isn’t in any hurry or even minded to show any sympathy to the UK? We left, they didn’t want this didn’t think we’d vote leave and have caused a major groundswell of thinking among member states. If the UK can pull this off and thrive without any special treatment then the EU machine needs a route and channel re think. Get back to basics of trade and drop the United States of Europe pipe dream.

And you have some evidence for this “major“ groundswell of thinking in EU states.
I rather think, that EU nations have utterly forgotten about Brexit and all that pertains to it. Nobody in EU gives a flying f**k about any of this leaving nonsense, other than far right and far left fringy type undesirables. Folks have other issues now to be getting in with. Brexit is so passé now. All that’s left of it, is the banshee wailing in NI, to mourn the death of its union with GB.
 

le bon paysan

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Livestock Farmer
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Limousin, France
Well they made it clear they were going to breach international law before and didn't care. Why should we be even remotely surprised when they do it again?
Surely the EU can't possibly ratify the deal now that the UK has broken it before it's even signed ?

Time to let the UK go WTO - they are more trouble than they are worth - enough time wasted on the lying cheating two faced buffoon Johnson, he can concentrate on forming a charity to pay for his interior design.
 

Raider112

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And you have some evidence for this “major“ groundswell of thinking in EU states.
I rather think, that EU nations have utterly forgotten about Brexit and all that pertains to it. Nobody in EU gives a flying fudge about any of this leaving nonsense, other than far right and far left fringy type undesirables. Folks have other issues now to be getting in with. Brexit is so passé now. All that’s left of it, is the banshee wailing in NI, to mourn the death of its union with GB.
A pity the next post proved this wrong!! Seriously if posters on here are anything to go by people in the EU are still pretty obsessed with Brexit. If I didn't look on here I wouldn't see it mentioned from one day to the next.
 

Ncap

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A pity the next post proved this wrong!! Seriously if posters on here are anything to go by people in the EU are still pretty obsessed with Brexit. If I didn't look on here I wouldn't see it mentioned from one day to the next.
Ha ha ha!
News flash! Obscure UK farming forum turns out to be accurate indicator of EU population’s views!
 

czechmate

Member
Mixed Farmer
And you have some evidence for this “major“ groundswell of thinking in EU states.
I rather think, that EU nations have utterly forgotten about Brexit and all that pertains to it. Nobody in EU gives a flying fudge about any of this leaving nonsense, other than far right and far left fringy type undesirables. Folks have other issues now to be getting in with. Brexit is so passé now. All that’s left of it, is the banshee wailing in NI, to mourn the death of its union with GB.


Yes, that seems the current state
 

Martin Holden

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Trade
Location
Cheltenham
And you have some evidence for this “major“ groundswell of thinking in EU states.
I rather think, that EU nations have utterly forgotten about Brexit and all that pertains to it. Nobody in EU gives a flying fudge about any of this leaving nonsense, other than far right and far left fringy type undesirables. Folks have other issues now to be getting in with. Brexit is so passé now. All that’s left of it, is the banshee wailing in NI, to mourn the death of its union with GB.
Well I have many friends across the EU and that is how they see it. They are of course not a majority but this is what I here. As said before I’m not anti European but I have always had severe reservations about the political direction of travel of the EU Brussels machine. That’s not based on the last few years, more the last 20 plus years. I can see Brexit has had side effects and you are caught up in all this as too are some businesses over here but it is what it is, history will dictate whether it was a smart idea to let the people decide in 2016 or not
 

czechmate

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Mixed Farmer
Well I have many friends across the EU and that is how they see it. They are of course not a majority but this is what I here. As said before I’m not anti European but I have always had severe reservations about the political direction of travel of the EU Brussels machine. That’s not based on the last few years, more the last 20 plus years. I can see Brexit has had side effects and you are caught up in all this as too are some businesses over here but it is what it is, history will dictate whether it was a smart idea to let the people decide in 2016 or not


Slovenians?

Maybe they have some anti EU obsession there? I don’t know any. I do though know a lot of French (living here) and a lot of Czechs (being married to one) and for some reasons a number of Slovaks.
Not one single one has any fréxit, czexit, sloxit thought. I mean, it’s not even something that enters consideration 🤷‍♂️
 

Martin Holden

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Trade
Location
Cheltenham
Slovenians?

Maybe they have some anti EU obsession there? I don’t know any. I do though know a lot of French (living here) and a lot of Czechs (being married to one) and for some reasons a number of Slovaks.
Not one single one has any fréxit, czexit, sloxit thought. I mean, it’s not even something that enters consideration 🤷‍♂️
Actually, no, wasn’t referring to my pals down there. More Danes, some French, Italians and Germans actually. There is a big population in Europe. As said before the common market and other combined matters is one thing but my friend the politicians who are ultimately driving the Euro ideal are but a minute part of the population. I suspect that the populous in the EU member states don’t think long about Brexit or the EU for that matter. Tis a funny old world
 

czechmate

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Mixed Farmer
Actually, no, wasn’t referring to my pals down there. More Danes, some French, Italians and Germans actually. There is a big population in Europe. As said before the common market and other combined matters is one thing but my friend the politicians who are ultimately driving the Euro ideal are but a minute part of the population. I suspect that the populous in the EU member states don’t think long about Brexit or the EU for that matter. Tis a funny old world


Yep, mostly folk just live their lives and want it to be as simple and convenient as possible (well that kind of rules out rallying). Anothing thing I thought of since my last post, our vets (in central France) is a partenership of a Belgium and a Spaniard. Most of their employees have been Spanish and a Rumanian, basically the way Europe is, works, even down to the Euro itself. It makes modern life convenient. Le penn posters do go up around here, so obviously there must be one fan... but they are normally defaced 👍
 

Hindsight

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Lincolnshire
Well they made it clear they were going to breach international law before and didn't care. Why should we be even remotely surprised when they do it again?
Surely the EU can't possibly ratify the deal now that the UK has broken it before it's even signed ?

Time to let the UK go WTO - they are more trouble than they are worth - enough time wasted on the lying cheating two faced buffoon Johnson, he can concentrate on forming a charity to pay for his interior design.

Your correct but this is unworkable. Always was and will be.

I listened on the radio last night as this news was revealed. I am a Briton. A person in Northern Ireland is a Briton. We are citizens of the same state and country. How the hell can it be right that a parcel I post in my local Post Office to a friend in Leicester is straightforward but to a friend in Belfast may require some Customs declarations and additional checks.

Would this happen to you. If you post a parcel to a friend in Paris and then same package to a friend in Lyon. No of course not as France is one country.

And before you come back by saying my government agreed to this - it did, under duress, I know that. The UK Brexiters lied, that I know. The entity known as the EU simply bullied, cajoloed by the French and to an extent the Germans. No this secession of a part of the United Kingdom to the entity known as EU and thus to the sovereign 27 states members of that entity is unacceptable. And that is written as a mild UK citizen.

And to just add the fecking USA as well - Biden and his Irish cronies. There - full set.
 
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le bon paysan

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Livestock Farmer
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Limousin, France
Your correct but this is unworkable. Always was and will be.

I listened on the radio last night as this news was revealed. I am a Briton. A person in Northern Ireland is a Briton. We are citizens of the same state and country. How the hell can it be right that a parcel I post in my local Post Office to a friend in Leicester is straightforward but to a friend in Belfast may require some Customs declarations and additional checks.

Would this happen to you. If you post a parcel to a friend in Paris and then same package to a friend in Lyon. No of course not as France is one country.

And before you come back by saying my government agreed to this - it did, under duress, I know that. The UK Brexiters lied, that I know. The entity known as the EU simply bullied, cajoloed by the French and to an extent the Germans. No this secession of a part of the United Kingdom to the entity known as EU and thus to the sovereign 27 states members of that entity is unacceptable. And that is written as a mild UK citizen.

And to just add the fecking USA as well - Biden and his Irish cronies. There - full set.
I have always agreed with what you say.
But you're wrong in that its the EUs fault, they offered you Norway, they offered you Switzerland, they offered you a bespoke deal ( granted it would have taken more time) but the uk government wanted it stripped to nothing!
I maintain its what boris has wanted, a deal for the plebs to show he delivered and WTO for Rishi and the ERG and most important his mates in the City who're going to give him a raft of directorships when he departs.

Just Foxtrot Oscar to WTO for heavens sake, boris will take you where you really want to go.
 

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quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

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