Single Market / Customs Union - A Tragic Loss

bobk

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som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
I didn't mean you had made the comments , the first is Borises attitude , and you know he repeats the second.
Are you satisfied with how your government have lied about what they achieved in the deal, and Boris on tv blaming fish exporters for the situation and then saying you'll have all the fish back in 5 years? ( It's 25% ,).
the fish protest from scotland, in london with the trucks, the owner is a fervent SNP, and substantially backs it with cash, he is not a fisherman, he just buys the fish, and sells them on, and, as a large company, he should have known the paperwork, he may even had some money, from the uk fund, administered by the SNP.
Which side didn't lie when promoting the referendum, all politicians do at all elections, just because he made a better job than the 'other' side, and in fairness, at the last election, an awful lot of people supported the 'out', although the opposition was somewhat frightening, with the covid, and them in charge, we probably wouldn't have started jabbing yet. The price for democracy, is you vote, someone wins, and tough if you don't like it, just because all the politicians told white lies, is totally irrelevant, we will leave re-runs, to get the 'right' answer, we leave that to the EU.
 

Muck Spreader

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Livestock Farmer
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Limousin
the fish protest from scotland, in london with the trucks, the owner is a fervent SNP, and substantially backs it with cash, he is not a fisherman, he just buys the fish, and sells them on, and, as a large company, he should have known the paperwork, he may even had some money, from the uk fund, administered by the SNP.
Which side didn't lie when promoting the referendum, all politicians do at all elections, just because he made a better job than the 'other' side, and in fairness, at the last election, an awful lot of people supported the 'out', although the opposition was somewhat frightening, with the covid, and them in charge, we probably wouldn't have started jabbing yet. The price for democracy, is you vote, someone wins, and tough if you don't like it, just because all the politicians told white lies, is totally irrelevant, we will leave re-runs, to get the 'right' answer, we leave that to the EU.

Yer talking pish. @its yourself do you want to put him right?
 

som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
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somerset
suprisingly, the UK is the world leader, in paying for the research, getting a vaccine passed for use, has enough vaccine ordered to vaccinate the country x3, and at the last count, has actually vaccinated more people than the whole EU, who are still deciding which drug to buy, sorry, wrong there, they ordered 30 million doses of the oxford vaccine last week, admittedly they are far down the waiting list, they actually need 435 million doses, i wonder how many they actually have. I would wager germany and france, finish vaccinating, before anyone else, has finished
 

Ncap

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suprisingly, the UK is the world leader, in paying for the research, getting a vaccine passed for use, has enough vaccine ordered to vaccinate the country x3, and at the last count, has actually vaccinated more people than the whole EU, who are still deciding which drug to buy, sorry, wrong there, they ordered 30 million doses of the oxford vaccine last week, admittedly they are far down the waiting list, they actually need 435 million doses, i wonder how many they actually have. I would wager germany and france, finish vaccinating, before anyone else, has finished
Also we are currently almost the worst country in the world for Covid deaths and infections. So perhaps that is quite fitting. For some reason those world-beating figures don't often get an airing
 

som farmer

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somerset
Yer talking pish. @its yourself do you want to put him right?
well, since that info was on a european news desk, unless they are as bigger liars as our lot are, don't know. And if you honestly think politicians don't twist facts to their advantage, you are utterly deluded. You could also ask macron, what he thought the result would be, if he had an in or out referendum, oh, sorry, he has answered, out. All in the public domain.
 

som farmer

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somerset
Also we are currently almost the worst country in the world for Covid deaths and infections. So perhaps that is quite fitting. For some reason those world-beating figures don't often get an airing
alas, you are correct, at least we look like being one of the first to finish vaccinating, so end of day, we might not hold that position, but it aint good. And i certainly don't envy the politicians that have to make those calls, basically whatever they do/say is going to be wrong, same as most other countries.
 

Martin Holden

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Trade
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Cheltenham
Well as a couple ,having written to our mp ( clifton brown) before and after the vote several times , he ceased to represent us in 2018. We subsequently wrote to Roger Gale who was campaigning for EU / uk citizens rights.
Mrs lbp is currently helping 2 people to get residents cards here as they both have poor internet access and struggle with paperwork.
There is little else either of us can do except support those who are attempting to right wrongs.
It's telling that the EU has given us more rights than the uk.
Nosy question - your “local” MP is in my neighbouring constituency but I thought you resided in France? If so have you got French nationality or are you caught in the gap created by Brexit? Noting personal, just curious. By the way not overly impressed with “your MP” either
 

czechmate

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Mixed Farmer
suprisingly, the UK is the world leader, in paying for the research, getting a vaccine passed for use, has enough vaccine ordered to vaccinate the country x3, and at the last count, has actually vaccinated more people than the whole EU, who are still deciding which drug to buy, sorry, wrong there, they ordered 30 million doses of the oxford vaccine last week, admittedly they are far down the waiting list, they actually need 435 million doses, i wonder how many they actually have. I would wager germany and france, finish vaccinating, before anyone else, has finished


Yep, if you read many of the threads you might note I have commented how well the uk is doing with the vaccination. And I even mentioned how pleased I was that my mum has received her’s (on the second appointment)
Europe is pretty underwhelming (so far) on vaccination.
Do you think smug is a good look? Especially when it regards the health of elderly folk :facepalm:
 

arcobob

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Location
Norfolk
Mrs Czech just reading about the thousand of new jobs in France caused by the movement of jobs from the uk. No wonder there is no one available for work here :banghead:
There never was unless you paid them cash. Try rounding up the migrants in Calais and give them a job. You just want to give them assisted passage to come here and scrounge off our benefits. France is the worst black economy in Europe . The Greeks cannot hold a light to your lot.
 

czechmate

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Mixed Farmer
There never was unless you paid them cash. Try rounding up the migrants in Calais and give them a job. You just want to give them assisted passage to come here and scrounge off our benefits. France is the worst black economy in Europe . The Greeks cannot hold a light to your lot.


Funny, I’ve suggested a number of times to Mrs Czech that I might well do just that 😂
Do you know Syrian for vet by any chance?;)

The only folk I’ve had here offering services on the black have been ex pats😕
 

czechmate

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Mixed Farmer
There never was unless you paid them cash. Try rounding up the migrants in Calais and give them a job. You just want to give them assisted passage to come here and scrounge off our benefits. France is the worst black economy in Europe . The Greeks cannot hold a light to your lot.


I’ll tell another little asside.
Now Mrs Czech was a lòveły innocent When she last lived in the Czech Republic and found herself at a bit of a loose end, 2002 it was. She saw an advert to be an au pair in the uk and thought why not. When she arrived, she was somewhat surprised to find their only child was to have his 18th birthday that week. Now, they also happened to have a quite large B and B and campsite business (you can see where this is leading?), yes the deal was to work for their business for cash. Ah, but there’s more...
These people had a second business, an “employment” agency specifically placing Eastern European youngsters to “work” in livery establishments- but this is in 2002 🤔, I’ll bet you’ve guessed again, yep, all done on au pair visas🤭.
Trouble is, you’ll never tell me how uk is whiter than white, I did it all there for 53 years🤪
 

Muck Spreader

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
well, since that info was on a european news desk, unless they are as bigger liars as our lot are, don't know. And if you honestly think politicians don't twist facts to their advantage, you are utterly deluded. You could also ask macron, what he thought the result would be, if he had an in or out referendum, oh, sorry, he has answered, out. All in the public domain.

What I am saying is don't knock people trying to fight for their survival, you never know you may be next. The trucks were from many producers in England as well as Scotland who have basically been fu&ked by this lying and incompetent government. Bozza just told them it's their fault for not filling the paperwork out correctly is not helpful and then fining them for breaking Covid rules just for good measure! :banghead:
 

czechmate

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Mixed Farmer
Nosy question - your “local” MP is in my neighbouring constituency but I thought you resided in France? If so have you got French nationality or are you caught in the gap created by Brexit? Noting personal, just curious. By the way not overly impressed with “your MP” either


We can still vote for our last constituency Martin. Nationality is real difficult, as it is for the uk or Czech Republic for example. As a half way house, we can get (well, must now) a residency permit.
Plenty of folk I know had lived here 20 years or more but never needed to bother...
Before Farage day🤷‍♂️
 

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Red Tractor drops launch of green farming scheme amid anger from farmers

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quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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