Sip Tedder

[Dave W]

Ah, I think this is a deal where the wrong version was quoted. I spoke to our dealer who told me “we were expensive” and it transpired he was pricing a mounted version of our big trailer beast and yes, that is more expensive than our 8 rotor top end of the standard mounted range.

Knowing the rep who quoted he may well have quoted for a muck spreader by mistake

 

[Wazmos]

I went to look at a new Lely tedder 2 years ago, and bought a Malone 4 rotor instead. It's a better built machine, particularly in the headstock, but with very similar hook tines. I've been very pleased with it. If you like the Lely tine design, they are certainly worth looking at, in the 4-6 rotor size (they don't make bigger).

It still has larger rotors though, like the Lely, whereas Sip (& others) will tell you that more, smaller rotors clean the ground better. There may be something in that of course, but the hook tines work OK IME, and tend to leave any stones & soil where they were.

+1 for the Malone.

 

[Deepseaman]

+1 for the Malone.

Malone only new to nz , will check them out , but I think only 4 rotor in 6m range or next is 8m isn't it ?
Was thinking of trying 6 rotors this time.
We run a lot of claas gear , but have not heard good things about the volto , and Krone build quality seems to be an issue reading forums on here.

 

[Martin Holden]

Knowing the rep who quoted he may well have quoted for a muck spreader by mistake

Harsh! I think he knows a Tedder form a muck spreader.

 

[balerman]

Sounds like you think along similar lines to me, build quality and strength of the Lely is king. The hook tines are a necessary evil due to the large rotors.

If only Fendt could build a Fella tedder in the Lely style - ie 50% stronger across the board, keeping the small rotors, they’d be onto a winner.

I don't think you are quite getting the hook tine benefits,the main one is that the hook tine picks up heavy lumps and throws them back further so they are on top and will dry better,next pass will then pull them apart.They also don't dig up stones as easily and don't break very often.

 

[Andrew]

I don't think you are quite getting the hook tine benefits,the main one is that the hook tine picks up heavy lumps and throws them back further so they are on top and will dry better,next pass will then pull them apart.They also don't dig up stones as easily and don't break very often.

The sole purpose of the hook tines is to cover more ground, so you don’t miss bits with the larger rotors. Any correctly set tedder will throw wet stuff further as wet stuff has more momentum. The ‘hook tine’ is best is simply a triumph of Lelys PR department

 

[balerman]

The sole purpose of the hook tines is to cover more ground, so you don’t miss bits with the larger rotors. Any correctly set tedder will throw wet stuff further as wet stuff has more momentum. The ‘hook tine’ is best is simply a triumph of Lelys PR department

I think you are wrong, Lely made plenty of tedders with small rotors.If that is the case why are so many companies using it now the patent has run out,cos it works better and doesn't break as easily!

 

[Andrew]

I think you are wrong, Lely made plenty of tedders with small rotors.If that is the case why are so many companies using it now the patent has run out,cos it works better and doesn't break as easily!

Why would Lely have two tine types when one will do?
A lot of companies will put it on purely because a lot of farmers have it in their mind that the hook tine is better, and therefore they won’t buy a machine with straight tines.
Lose sales of machines, or bolt hook tines on. No brainer really.

 

[balerman]

Why would Lely have two tine types when one will do?
A lot of companies will put it on purely because a lot of farmers have it in their mind that the hook tine is better, and therefore they won’t buy a machine with straight tines.
Lose sales of machines, or bolt hook tines on. No brainer really.

But they are better! Anyway I don't see the point arguing about it,im happy with a Lely cos it don't break tines,doesnt kick up stones and does a grand job .Each to their own.

 

[Grassman]

Ah, I think this is a deal where the wrong version was quoted. I spoke to our dealer who told me “we were expensive” and it transpired he was pricing a mounted version of our big trailer beast and yes, that is more expensive than our 8 rotor top end of the standard mounted range.

Has the sip got a headland management system? Wheel angling or swath board?

 

[FarmerD89]

It’s got hydraulic steering on the mounted versions, and a headland curtain optional on most of the range.

 

[Martin Holden]

Has the sip got a headland management system? Wheel angling or swath board?

The whole range from 455 - 815 have as standard hydraulic headland management. Basically moves the wheels so the Tedder crabs left or right. The Niger range 900-1500 are all fixed and have a side swath guard for headland management. This is because they are all trailed units (smaller 900 8 rotor and 1100 10 rotor can also be had as mounted!)

 

[Grassman]

The whole range from 455 - 815 have as standard hydraulic headland management. Basically moves the wheels so the Tedder crabs left or right. The Niger range 900-1500 are all fixed and have a side swath guard for headland management. This is because they are all trailed units (smaller 900 8 rotor and 1100 10 rotor can also be had as mounted!)

That's what I needed to know. Thanks