Skilled and high paid

[nelly55]

Well does agriculture come under that,lots of livestock farmers are working well below other industries.Going tell me I’m wrong

 

[D14]

Well does agriculture come under that,lots of livestock farmers are working well below other industries.Going tell me I’m wrong

You are correct but we can't pay high end wages because we can't sell our produce at high end prices.

 

[RAF]

U want big money get another job cuz this job ain’t ever goin be well paid.
Fact

 

[milkloss]

All of the above!

 

[bluebell]

that goes for alot of small businesses, take make a sucess of your own, working for your self, you work all hours, have to learn the hard way many skills ?

 

[Devil's advocate]

Live poor but die rich.

Great for the kids.

 

[Flatlander]

Live poor but die rich.

Great for the kids.

Seen it here in a few cases where the kids will blow every penny of their inheritance in no time at all. Bought a field from two brother that had been gifted to them by thier 90 year old mother. She was actually raised on my very farm. The two were to pushy to get the money they called once the deal was done wanting to get a cheque fir it Instead of waiting to get it thru the lawyer. They waited lol. Farmer have always been traditionally asset rich cash poor.

 

[kiwi pom]

There's some decent fairly well paid jobs in agriculture if you're prepared to look round and have the qualifications.

 

[M-J-G]

Well does agriculture come under that,lots of livestock farmers are working well below other industries.Going tell me I’m wrong

You won't get good money for a job that many are prepared to do for very little

 

[GeorgeK]

You won't get good money for a job that many are prepared to do for very little

Exactly, this is the the downside of having a job people love. You won't find many solicitors prepared to work at cost price or plumbers who'll subsidise your new bathroom with income from their private investments.

 

[RAF]

Lol and it will never change . The rough places get paid the same for there produce as the tidy places . How some off them are on Tesco contracts is a joke

 

[icanshootwell]

Most electricians are on £250 day.
Farmer and tractor £250/day on hire/contract.
We can earn the same after you paid for the £100,000 tractor. the sparky only needs some screwdrivers, snips etc.

 

[nelly55]

Yes folk Don’t see how much money is actually invested in the machinery before you put in the man hours.But farmers don’t do themselves any favours at times the public only see the big new 4x4,the big houses and sadly some of the attitude of the few.Just lately the big tractors,young men on phones and get off the sodding road attitude to me as a car driver has shown a disappointing side to farming. Farm prices are stuck in the dark ages ,we all blame supermarkets but let’s face it they are the only ones to move the volume of product,because your local butcher can’t and it’s too dear to lots of folk.Boris and his gang want everything cheap as chips for the public .With energy prices rising and folk on fixed incomes after mortgage,rent etc there is only food money to cut so Boris solution to problem get food cheaper at any cost.So back to my question our skill and knowledge is undervalued as food producers and custodians of the countryside ,just write your CV our jobs as skilled are endless.

 

[Scholsey]

If you go back to the 70s 80s and look at the price of things and how they have risen compared to others, is anything else as out of kilter as primary produced food?

Houses, land, TVs and holidays would have all doubled in price every 15 years as a rough guess, if food had, what would we be getting a litre/kg/tonne now?

I think cash poor/asset rich has been a fairly recent position many farmers have found themselves in and only thing that will change it is if proper value is put on taking land out of production and paying a liveable wage to do so.

 

[kiwi pom]

Yes folk Don’t see how much money is actually invested in the machinery before you put in the man hours.But farmers don’t do themselves any favours at times the public only see the big new 4x4,the big houses and sadly some of the attitude of the few.Just lately the big tractors,young men on phones and get off the sodding road attitude to me as a car driver has shown a disappointing side to farming. Farm prices are stuck in the dark ages ,we all blame supermarkets but let’s face it they are the only ones to move the volume of product,because your local butcher can’t and it’s too dear to lots of folk.Boris and his gang want everything cheap as chips for the public .With energy prices rising and folk on fixed incomes after mortgage,rent etc there is only food money to cut so Boris solution to problem get food cheaper at any cost.So back to my question our skill and knowledge is undervalued as food producers and custodians of the countryside ,just write your CV our jobs as skilled are endless.

Farmers are good allrounders, who often tackle a bit of everything which would look ok on a CV but if you packed up farming tomorrow what could you do that paid more, without retraining or getting qualified?
Not trying to be a smart arse, just curious.

 

[Scholsey]

Farmers are good allrounders, who often tackle a bit of everything which would look ok on a CV but if you packed up farming tomorrow what could you do that paid more, without retraining or getting qualified?
Not trying to be a smart arse, just curious.

Binman.

 

[kiwi pom]

If you go back to the 70s 80s and look at the price of things and how they have risen compared to others, is anything else as out of kilter as primary produced food?

Houses, land, TVs and holidays would have all doubled in price every 15 years as a rough guess, if food had, what would we be getting a litre/kg/tonne now?

I think cash poor/asset rich has been a fairly recent position many farmers have found themselves in and only thing that will change it is if proper value is put on taking land out of production and paying a liveable wage to do so.

Perhaps going back as far as the 70's and 80's is a bit of a stretch but I think lots of things have stayed the same price or even got cheaper.
I can't remember the exact price but I think my first flight to Australia around 1994 was similar to what it was just before Covid.
We used to rent a TV when I was a kid, they were too expensive to buy, now they're cheap as and a thousand times better. Mobile phones and their contracts were very expensive and they can be now but you can get very cheap ones.
I agree some things have gone up but a lot haven't, unfortunately farm gate prices are as you say on the stayed the same list.

 

[nelly55]

Farmers are good allrounders, who often tackle a bit of everything which would look ok on a CV but if you packed up farming tomorrow what could you do that paid more, without retraining or getting qualified?
Not trying to be a smart arse, just curious.

Apart from skilled trade ,electricians,etc some of the so called experts on high wages I have met yes I could do some jobs .Managing a drainage system for a start ,

 

[FonterraFarmer]

Farmers are good allrounders, who often tackle a bit of everything which would look ok on a CV but if you packed up farming tomorrow what could you do that paid more, without retraining or getting qualified?
Not trying to be a smart arse, just curious.

Think I could do the PM's, Only downside would be having to work with halfwits , deal with drug dealers and associate with gangs!!!

 

[Chae1]

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Most electricians are on £250 day.
Farmer and tractor £250/day on hire/contract.
We can earn the same after you paid for the £100,000 tractor. the sparky only needs some screwdrivers, snips etc.

Does the electrician get a subsidy from the government every year?

Beef, lamb and wheat prices are currently at record highs. Yet farmers are moaning about lack of money.

Next years going to be tougher with higher input prices but can't believe people are moaning at present.