Sky news today, can farming survive

[le bon paysan]

Long report on today

Scheduled 1830, 2130 + SAT 1030 and 1230

 

[Hilly]

Long report on today

Scheduled 1830, 2130 + SAT 1030 and 1230

On sky news ?!

 

[primmiemoo]

Here's an article to accompany it ~

'The government has thrown us under the bus' - can British farming survive?

'The government has thrown us under the bus' - can British farming survive?

news.sky.com

Of course, there will be a chorus of "Farmers asked for it by voting Leave!", but farming people were lied to by very sophisticated operators.

 

[Flatland guy]

Farming WILL survive . Until the global population can get their supply of calories needed to survive from elsewhere other than fields/ animals etc us farmers do not have much problem. Technically the only problem we have is the rules and regulations in our own countries compared to elsewhere either undercutting our products with products that may not be produced so ethically.

 

[kfpben]

People have been complaining that there’s no future in farming since about 1750.
Plenty of us still buggering on!

 

[Widgetone]

Here's an article to accompany it ~

'The government has thrown us under the bus' - can British farming survive?

'The government has thrown us under the bus' - can British farming survive?

news.sky.com

Of course, there will be a chorus of "Farmers asked for it by voting Leave!", but farming people were lied to by very sophisticated operators.

Lordy, don’t even go there!

 

[br jones]

the thing is ,every developed country are throwing their farmers under the bus in the pursuit of net zero ,wtf is food going to come from if every goverment fecks their farming industry

 

[essex man]

Here's an article to accompany it ~

'The government has thrown us under the bus' - can British farming survive?

'The government has thrown us under the bus' - can British farming survive?

news.sky.com

Of course, there will be a chorus of "Farmers asked for it by voting Leave!", but farming people were lied to by very sophisticated operators.

Yes, thankfully many managed to ignore the lies of the remain campaign and voted to leave.
I and those that i know are happy with the result.
At least today farmers have government that is democratically accountable for agricultural policy.

 

[Hilly]

Ive had three non farmers in my yard this week saying they are convinced food will get tight the way things are going …… im yet to be convinced … our only hope is something dramatic happens in shipping id say

 

[Frank-the-Wool]

Yes, thankfully many managed to ignore the lies of the remain campaign and voted to leave.
I and those that i know are happy with the result.
At least today farmers have government that is democratically accountable for agricultural policy.

Does the present government or any of the other parties have a policy that will increase food production?
I don't think they do?

The EU has always had a long term view, the problem it had was it was economically inefficient but kept people on the land. Add in Net Zero and the only way is to cut production in the short term!

 

[Hilly]

Increasing production now would be a bad thing , the less the better , less for more is better than more for less .

 

[gone up the hill]

the thing is ,every developed country are throwing their farmers under the bus in the pursuit of net zero ,wtf is food going to come from if every goverment fecks their farming industry

Net zero is just a con to make the super rich even richer and the poor even poorer and for the super rich to control the poor just like the Covid Bollox was about!

 

[mixedfmr]

Ive had three non farmers in my yard this week saying they are convinced food will get tight the way things are going …… im yet to be convinced … our only hope is something dramatic happens in shipping id say

A lot of land in one kind of fallow or another and many crops EXTREMELY patchy and late spring sowing (but that doesnt bother me on my land so much)
The way things went at lambing, well i dont want another one of those, If one is wavering about sheep, it was enough to put you off, and the young ones hardly like livestock anyway. As said in other places, produce just for YOUR profit and existance and bugger the Gov and Public untill they realise where THEIR food comes from and pay for it

 

[Hilly]

A lot of land in one kind of fallow or another and many crops EXTREMELY patchy and late spring sowing (but that doesnt bother me on my land so much)
The way things went at lambing, well i dont want another one of those, If one is wavering about sheep, it was enough to put you off, and the young ones hardly like livestock anyway. As said in other places, produce just for YOUR profit and existance and bugger the Gov and Public untill they realise where THEIR food comes from and pay for it

I agree with you .

 

[Hilly]

Net zero is just a con to make the super rich even richer and the poor even poorer and for the super rich to control the poor just like the Covid Bollox was about!

The clamp it’s that go along with and have all turned carbon ex spurts make me laugh …

 

[essex man]

Does the present government or any of the other parties have a policy that will increase food production?
I don't think they do?

The EU has always had a long term view, the problem it had was it was economically inefficient but kept people on the land. Add in Net Zero and the only way is to cut production in the short term!

The "eu had a long term view that was economically inefficient" mmm i honestly don't know what you are trying to say here??
They were long term terrible rather than knee jerk terrible?

 

[essex man]

Does the present government or any of the other parties have a policy that will increase food production?
I don't think they do?

The EU has always had a long term view, the problem it had was it was economically inefficient but kept people on the land. Add in Net Zero and the only way is to cut production in the short term!

Increasing prices will increase production, that's how the market works.
no one will be doing sfi if wheat goes back to £300.
There really isn't any need for doom mongering all the time

 

[nxy]

Increasing production now would be a bad thing , the less the better , less for more is better than more for less .

This. But it doesn't always feel good to know that for farming to really work someone needs to be hungry.

One of my grandfathers sayings was "If you have a dozen eggs and a dozen customers you need to break an egg"

 

[Hilly]

This. But it doesn't always feel good to know that for farming to really work someone needs to be hungry.

One of my grandfathers sayings was "If you have a dozen eggs and a dozen customers you need to break an egg"

I think it will be along time before anyone goes hungry but i dont think government encouraging production would be a good idea , it didnt end well the last time for us .

 

[glasshouse]

Govt policy has been captured by the super wealthy.
A quick bung to the tory party works wonders