Skyfall T4

Andy26

Moderator
Arable Farmer
Location
Northants
Looking at Skyfall this morning, despite being very clean thus far, some yellow rust is starting to come on leaf 2, T3 was just tebuconazole about ten days ago, I know its getting late but a T4 going on Monday as soon as it arrives.
 

MrNoo

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Cirencester
My agron just sent a rec this morn for Skyfall, had a T0,T1 and a late’ish T2, pretty clean but pustules evident apparently.
What is it with them, a week of decent high pressure, weather about to break and rec drops into the in box. Same every bloody time
 

Andy26

Moderator
Arable Farmer
Location
Northants
My agron just sent a rec this morn for Skyfall, had a T0,T1 and a late’ish T2, pretty clean but pustules evident apparently.
What is it with them, a week of decent high pressure, weather about to break and rec drops into the in box. Same every bloody time
Yellow rust used to be a spring disease favouring 10-15 degrees C, then Brown rust takes over, so wasn't expecting to see to much, but don't want the flag leaf with YR on with grain fill about to start.
 

Andy26

Moderator
Arable Farmer
Location
Northants
How many times have you used teb already?

Lots of yellow rust around here despite the temperatures.
Some Teb labels limit you to two applications per crop, Folicur label limits you to max 2l/ha total dose, with max individual does of 1 l/ha and min 14 day interval, no limit on number of applications.

Yellow rust almost consigning Skyfall to history although new variety replacement seed price will likely give it another year here.
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
Can you still get Folicur? I suppose you could rotate products if you can't, as long as you read each label.

What would you replace Skyfall with? Zyatt is nearly as bad if you want to stay with a Group 1 miller.
 

Andy26

Moderator
Arable Farmer
Location
Northants
must be a very late crop if grain fill is about to start
yr is a very localised disease this year
Grain fill starts as soon as flowering has finished, so perhaps started a few days ago, drilled last week of October, but very much at the start of they typical 45 day of grain fill.
 

snarling bee

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Bedfordshire
My agron just sent a rec this morn for Skyfall, had a T0,T1 and a late’ish T2, pretty clean but pustules evident apparently.
What is it with them, a week of decent high pressure, weather about to break and rec drops into the in box. Same every bloody time
If you don't trust your agronomist get another. He's not doing much of a job anyway by the looks of it.

It is important to get the timing right on T3 if you are going to control fusarium and reduce micotoxins. Correct timing is start of flowering regardless of when T2 went on.
I spend £20.50 on T3 on group 1's. Can't risk the premium when I have spent extra on N and 10% yield down. If you are going to do something, do it properly.
 

MrNoo

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Cirencester
If you don't trust your agronomist get another. He's not doing much of a job anyway by the looks of it.

It is important to get the timing right on T3 if you are going to control fusarium and reduce micotoxins. Correct timing is start of flowering regardless of when T2 went on.
I spend £20.50 on T3 on group 1's. Can't risk the premium when I have spent extra on N and 10% yield down. If you are going to do something, do it properly.
You walked my wheat then? Rude but then I am anti NFU so guess to be expected.
Oh to be so perfect
 

snarling bee

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Bedfordshire
You walked my wheat then? Rude but then I am anti NFU so guess to be expected.
Oh to be so perfect
Apologies if the tone of my post was wrong. You grow your wheat how you want to. Nothing to do with your views on NFU, hadn't even entered my head as most regulars on here are anti NFU it seems.
I was explaining how I grow group 1 wheats.
Your tone regarding your agronomist's recs lead to my first comment, but reading it again you might have been blaming the weather. We would like more rain here even if I had to spend on another fungicide.
If the point of this forum is to learn from each other and exchange views then that led to the rest of my post. Ignore it if you like, but I am happy to listen to comments from lots of people who have never walked my crops, set foot on my farm, or lived my life.
 

MrNoo

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Cirencester
No that’s ok, guess my humour doesn’t convey well in black and white!
Yes mainly with his timing, ie settled weather and rec always arrives day it’s blowing a Gale or raining!
12.5mm here so cannot grumble
 

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