I wouldn’t be pleased with that
Slow grain movement
- Thread starter Against_the_grain
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Jetemp
Member
- Location
- North Yorkshire
Must be fast if it beats Ensus! Takes longer to get the trailer up and down than it does to take the grain out of the pit you tip into up here.
The reality of the slow movements is economics, pay the hauliers a more appropriate rate and there will be plenty queuing up for the work, keep going as we are with merchants screwing the haulier to sfa of an income and the grain trade/movement is going to grind itself into oblivion
Steevo
Member
- Location
- Gloucestershire
The grain industry has lost hauliers not just down to rates......but equally down to long queues at mills and slow tipping times.
How long goes it take to load stone with a 5t bucket.....and then again to tip it out the other end?!
How long goes it take to load stone with a 5t bucket.....and then again to tip it out the other end?!
Hanslope
Member
A few suggestions,
- Offer an incentive for delayed collection, say 3-7 days, e.g. dry grain credits Those with plenty of good temporary storage can ease the bottleneck, whilst gaining some value from their temporary storage.
- Premium collection, surcharge for guaranteed 24 hour collection.
- If unable to collect within say 48 hours dry grain credits issued to the member for the same tonnage as collection has been requested.
- Predetermined capped drying charges at the start and end of harvest to spread harvest more.
- Prevent a queue of lorries on farm (it's not unusual to have half a dozen lorries or more turn up on Farm at the same time, I've heard of twelve turn up in a row).
Good ideas.
I think this thread suggests the value in renewing your O-Licence? I'm certainly as glad as ever that we still put up with running our own lorries. Direct profitability of haulage is one thing, but value to the farm business as a whole knowing that you can make harvest deliveries, selling opportunities for EDQs, moving grain between farms for drying facilities, loading from field to improve combine output etc. The more we integrate with the haulage side during harvest, the harder i can imagine being without it.
Woldgrain Storage
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- Location
- Hemswell, North Lincs
Our capped drying charges have been a win/win all round.
The individual member benefits from cheap drying charges,
The store benefits from smoothed intake peaks
The wider membership benefits from the increase in average crop quality as people aren't waiting and waiting.
We aim for half the fleet to be loaded overnight and half to be empty overnight, which aims to minimise queuing.
Really good points. For example I can handle quite a few lorries at once, I can get 3.5-4 tonne in a bucket and load in ten mins max. Others will be much slower so all this needs taking into account when organising loads for people. A loading shovel off a pad is going to be muck quicker than a 1 tonne bucket in an awkward old barn!
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Cutting wheat now. Wagons due to collect it and deliver to woldgrain tomorrow.
- Location
- Huntingdon
You always want top price
, sell it to me a bit cheaper and I will see what can be done C B
Hanslope
Member
Camgrain newsletter this morning reports a record 850 loads in on a single day last Tuesday and a record breaking amount of crop moved last week.
Still a 6 day wait for collection, which is an issue if harvesting grain above 18% as clearly this needs drying immediately as its at a high risk of producing ochratoxin A.
Still a 6 day wait for collection, which is an issue if harvesting grain above 18% as clearly this needs drying immediately as its at a high risk of producing ochratoxin A.
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How many members roughly in camgrain?Camgrain newsletter this morning reports a record 850 loads in on a single day last Tuesday and a record breaking amount of crop moved last week.
Still a 6 day wait for collection, which is an issue if harvesting grain above 18% as clearly this needs drying immediately as its at a high risk of producing ochratoxin A.
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Baling Hay
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Can fit about 150 people in a bin, how many bins have they?
- Location
- Lincolnshire
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Yes, very pleasing. A bit of advance planning to know what they are likely to be taking in before cutting the 100t or whatever of some niche product. Not sure if we have had three loads or four gone already. Think the lorry is just shuttling between us and them.
Woldgrain Storage
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- Location
- Hemswell, North Lincs
That's a staggering tonnage, even for four sites.
If that is all 17% and upwards, there will be pressure on drying capacity as well as haulage availability.
Hanslope
Member
I think something like 550ish, I also think Frontier have a sizeable tonnage
Hanslope
Member
Incredible amount, cannot believe how there is still such a backlog, harvest is not as compact as last year. Much of the Camgrain heartland has had much kinder weather than most so don't think the dryer will of been under to much pressure until this last week.
I imagine this wet weather has helped with catch up. They have had much wetter harvests than this in the past so I don’t think the drying is an issue.
It’s wet harvests when it really comes into its own for us anyway.
Hanslope
Member
Totally agree, Camgrain gives me the ability to harvest when I couldn't otherwise think about it and the the individual load sampling and segregation is something I couldn't dream of on my scale. So still very much a fan, just need to sort this harvest movement thing.
Absolutely, and they will be all ears I’m sure. As fellow members it’s much better for us all to discuss and contribute to working out problems (the industry ever evolving and changing) rather than throwing too many toys out the pram!