Slurry storage covering

pellow

Member
Location
Newquay
Does anyone know if the rules are confirmed for covering slurry storage? Could do with knowing if a roof covering is good enough or will it need to be air tight sealed?
 

frederick

Member
Location
south west
Rules far from confirmed. However if a cover is needed a roof definitely won't be enough. You might get away with a roof to stop water entry and then a floating straw cust but this is all far from certain.
 

AlfM

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Norfolk
I've heard from various sources that a good coat of straw on top of whatever the source of muck/slurry is could constitute a cover. Any views on this? Unlikely?
 

frederick

Member
Location
south west
I've heard from various sources that a good coat of straw on top of whatever the source of muck/slurry is could constitute a cover. Any views on this? Unlikely?
Have heard the same but how thick is it going to have to be. If the slurry is separated it will just blow to one side. If the crust isn't working properly on the day of inspection what happens.
 

Jdunn55

Member
Have heard the same but how thick is it going to have to be. If the slurry is separated it will just blow to one side. If the crust isn't working properly on the day of inspection what happens.
I guess a shed with the lagoon in the middle and a 15t covered passage on one side so that you could use a straw chopper to blow straw on top of the lagoon could work then as the shed (assuming it has boards/panels etc) would stop the straw from being blown off?
 

frederick

Member
Location
south west
Attitudes and policies change.
when the voters are hungry.
At the moment I think people are getting over excited about hungry people in the uk. People will just be poorer but not that hungry.
However people in the middle east and africa will simply have a boat load of wheat fail to turn up they will be hungry.

The uk question with regards to food security will be wether we have to take our wheat away from cattle and give it to the starving. If this transpires we won't have a need for the lagoon in the future covered or not.
However if as farmers we are still wealthy enough to buy wheat for our cattle whilst people can't afford to buy it for food I think we still have a moral requirement to improve the environment.
 

jerseycowsman

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
cornwall
At the moment I think people are getting over excited about hungry people in the uk. People will just be poorer but not that hungry.
However people in the middle east and africa will simply have a boat load of wheat fail to turn up they will be hungry.

The uk question with regards to food security will be wether we have to take our wheat away from cattle and give it to the starving. If this transpires we won't have a need for the lagoon in the future covered or not.
However if as farmers we are still wealthy enough to buy wheat for our cattle whilst people can't afford to buy it for food I think we still have a moral requirement to improve the environment.
No farmer buys wheat good enough to feed humans to feed their cattle, it costs too much compared to by products or wheat that isn’t good enough for human consumption, you are spouting hhe same ridiculous arguments as the vegans I argue with in a daily basis that say stupid things like 80% of the world’s land produces food for livestock. Which is because 80% of the worlds land is not good enough to produce food for humans. We get paid more for human grade food, so will produce it where we can. If farmers cannot understand that, how are vegans ever going to?
 

frederick

Member
Location
south west
No farmer buys wheat good enough to feed humans to feed their cattle, it costs too much compared to by products or wheat that isn’t good enough for human consumption, you are spouting hhe same ridiculous arguments as the vegans I argue with in a daily basis that say stupid things like 80% of the world’s land produces food for livestock. Which is because 80% of the worlds land is not good enough to produce food for humans. We get paid more for human grade food, so will produce it where we can. If farmers cannot understand that, how are vegans ever going to?
Do you really think that uk feed wheat ground would not be gratefully received by an algerian whose boat load of wheat has failed to turn up from Ukraine.
I expect 100 years ago most wheat grown was of poorer spec than uk feed wheat today.

I agree with your sentiment about grassland but nearly any land that is combined could be producing human food if required.

Feed wheat is only grown because the potential yield outweighs the lost human premium.
 
At the moment I think people are getting over excited about hungry people in the uk. People will just be poorer but not that hungry.
However people in the middle east and africa will simply have a boat load of wheat fail to turn up they will be hungry.

The uk question with regards to food security will be wether we have to take our wheat away from cattle and give it to the starving. If this transpires we won't have a need for the lagoon in the future covered or not.
However if as farmers we are still wealthy enough to buy wheat for our cattle whilst people can't afford to buy it for food I think we still have a moral requirement to improve the
Will there regs ? Yes.
will they be enforced with proper rigger ? No
Will time lines shift ?yes
Will grants be generous yes ?
will the rhetoric around livestock farming be dialled down ?yes
Hungry voters make a difference.
 

Keep On

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
SW
‘hungry voters’ in the UK is a big stretch. A return to a more sensible food:income ratio was inevitable before the Ukraine situation. 10/15% of income on food compared to many other genuinely hungry people of 40-100% income on food is nothing to complain about.
 

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