clbarclay
Member
- Location
- Worcestershire
I have been selling my barley straw, but would like to try a stripper header to harvest it instead.
Sly no till drill
- Thread starter dontknowanything
- Start date
- Location
- Dorset/Wiltshire
Here we are going to try and Disc drill behind cover crops in the spring and behind OSR and Oats. In the autumn anything behind Barley will be planted with a low disturbance tine drill as everything will be chopped, Hopefully that will work!
What are you replacing your Claydon with? Dale? Modified Sprinter? T Sem?
- Location
- Dorset/Wiltshire
I’m not sure yet
- Location
- NSW, Newstralya
that just takes more time & fuel . . .
we like to leave all our straw standing if we can, although if you’ve got a big barley crop that is flat on the ground, it’s gotta be cut at ground level anyway. The residue from that IS harder to deal with than the equivalent crop that is standing . . .
hey, I never said it was always easy
clbarclay
Member
- Location
- Worcestershire
Wish I had managed to cut all my stubbles long last autumn. Those that were seem to be fairing a lot better now for moisture after spring drilling than those that got baled.
- Location
- NSW, Newstralya
yep
That’s why I keep saying “ground cover is king”, not to mention all the extra wheel traffic & compaction from the baling operation
clbarclay
Member
- Location
- Worcestershire
Not normally so noticeable here as most of those fields would have been winter planted. The same conundrum persists though with how to make sure crops can be harvested leaving as longer stubble as possible. Those fields were all brackled barley, except for one of flattened wheat which we had for straw. Stubble management begins before harvest.
SorenIlsoe
Member
- Location
- Fjenneslev, Denmark
What are your experiences with long stubble and raking?
I see that raking has some important influence on controlling slugs, but will it create problems if stubble is very high. I guess it will block the rake in many situations?
On the other side: with long stubble there will be less straw on the surface that slugs can hide in.
I think low stubble height and the high amount of chopped straw on the surface is the greatest problem for succesful disc drilling.
I see that raking has some important influence on controlling slugs, but will it create problems if stubble is very high. I guess it will block the rake in many situations?
On the other side: with long stubble there will be less straw on the surface that slugs can hide in.
I think low stubble height and the high amount of chopped straw on the surface is the greatest problem for succesful disc drilling.
Loss of "soil armour?" Longer stubbles are great if you've got a drill that can handle them.
Not great unless it's very dry. I use my rake to smash up oilseed rape stubbles where the stalks are 30+cm tall or they block up my Claydon tine drill later on. I rake osr stubbles at least twice.
- Location
- The Cotswolds
We are able to offer row cleaners on the seeder now. These will fit front and back rows and will kick any loose residue out of the way. Coupled with Precision Plantings Cleansweep so you have the ability to make adjustments on the move the amount of loose trash on the surface at drilling can be managed effectively.
SorenIlsoe
Member
- Location
- Fjenneslev, Denmark
But with 16,6 cm row space there is not space enough between the rows for the straw. Many times it just moves to cover the next row!
Works fine for OSR drilled with every second row.
- Location
- The Cotswolds
Correct.
It will work on every row with 20 and 25cm spacing.
With the DSX we have shaved some width off the row units and we think that they will work well on 18.5cm spacing too - but we have not had chance to test them in high trash conditions with this row spacing.
- Location
- The Cotswolds
Correct.
It will work on every row with 20 and 25cm spacing.
With the DSX we have shaved some width off the row units and we think that they will work well on 18.5cm spacing too - but we have not had chance to test them in high trash conditions with this row spacing.
that just takes more time & fuel . . .
we like to leave all our straw standing if we can, although if you’ve got a big barley crop that is flat on the ground, it’s gotta be cut at ground level anyway. The residue from that IS harder to deal with than the equivalent crop that is standing . . .
hey, I never said it was always easy
I have been doing this
- Location
- NSW, Newstralya
that looks a lot more like our idea of zero till, but another reason we go wider row spacings is because in that situation, we would plant between the rows of the previous crop as well
And we would be running skinny tyres & CTF
jorgenbg
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- Location
- Oslo, Norway
I see these machines often come with two tanks. Is the second tank intended for solid fertilizer?
- Location
- The Cotswolds
You can use them for either seed or fert. The distribution heads are plumbed front and back instead of the traditional left and right so that you can either mix the tanks together or supply one tank to front and one to back.
On the new machine it's a single piece tank with partitions for the two and optional third tank.
