Small abattoirs closing- article in the Telegraph

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The only person that understands farmers these days is Jeremy Clarkson​

Now a National Farmers’ Union prize winner, the presenter could be the only person to sort the UK's farming issues
MARK HIX6 January 2022 • 5:00am
Mark Hix

The only person that understands farmers these days is Jeremy Clarkson

'If we want to eat local and support the farmers who produce meat, we need to keep abattoirs open,' says Hix
Now Christmas is out of the way, the panic over whether our inexplicable national appetite for turkeys was going to be satisfied along with it, minds have moved on from the labour shortages in abattoirs and meat-processing plants that had caused all the pre-Christmas jitters. But is the problem solved? Nothing like it.
One of the pleasures of living and working down here in rural west Dorset for the past almost two years is that I’ve got to know plenty of local farmers both as suppliers and as customers at my pub. And what they tell me repeatedly is that the abattoir crisis is much more complicated and long-running than having a turkey on the table on 25 December.
One after another, smaller local abattoirs are shutting up shop. And it is not just a problem in this neck of the woods. A countrywide survey by National Craft Butchers recently reported that almost 60 per cent of such operations say they expect to close in the next five years.

The reasons given are the soaring cost of regulation and red tape. There just isn’t enough money in these businesses to keep up with the ever-growing list of requirements. And so far, despite pressure from the Campaign for Local Abattoirs, the Government is stalling over offering grants to soften the blow to these smaller operations to allow them to continue in a market dominated by the big players who serve the supermarkets.
Does it matter? After all, we know the amount of meat we eat impacts on climate change, so perhaps abattoir closures will increase the push for us all to become vegetarians. And with the country still experiencing a critical shortage of abattoir workers since the eastern Europeans who made up such a large proportion of them before Brexit, have left these shores, then it may also ease some of those pressures.
I couldn’t decide if the Environment Secretary was joking recently when he told MPs that the vacant posts might be filled by mothers of school-age children who could fit in a few hours in the abattoir between dropping off the kids in the morning and picking them up at 3.30pm.
Why all of this does matter, however, is that one of the best ways we can reduce our carbon emissions is by eating local. It is the guiding principle of all that I do. And to eat local, we need local slaughterhouses.
If we want to keep pushing up standards of animal welfare, then there are going to have to be more dedicated smaller-scale producers joining the market so we are not so reliant on either agro-industry suppliers or overseas imports. And for small producers, we need local abattoirs.
Such facilities have also long played a significant role in supplying the farm shops that we all have grown to love because they connect us with the land, and the meat boxes that enable discerning consumers to bypass long supply chains that fill supermarket shelves.
I realise, of course, that some readers who love a good leg of lamb would prefer not to think about what goes on in abattoirs. But you can care passionately about animal welfare at the same time as cooking and eating meat, and for me the accelerating closure of small local abattoirs is a sad example of us going in the wrong direction.
The three piglets that I have written about before in this column, given to me by a local farmer before Christmas, had been part of a group that had to wait weeks longer than intended to get a slot at an abattoir.
And farming organisations report that nationally as many as 120,000 pigs may have been killed because there just wasn’t any abattoir capacity for them.
If we are really going to do something about climate change, we have to reduce food waste as well as food miles. The slaughter of so many pigs is wastage on a colossal and heartbreaking scale, above all for the farmers who raised the pigs. The cost to them has been estimated at £130 million.
No wonder farmers often feel so misunderstood by politicians and the public alike. Right now my farmer mates keep telling me that the only person who understands them is Jeremy Clarkson – in his Netflix series Clarkson’s Farm where he attempts to walk a mile in their shoes. Even the National Farmers’ Union has given him a prize.

Perhaps Clarkson is the one to make some progress on this issue. I can just see him in an abattoir playing up to the camera to make his point.
 

kiwi pom

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Why don't a group of farmers get together and buy these places?
They're closing because of red tape and not being profitable but if a group bought it to process their own stock it wouldn't have to make millions, just help process and add value to their produce without losing money. Its not much different than investing in a combine harvester or new milking parlour.
If farmers aren't willing to do it can you really expect someone to run them as a stand alone business.

Perhaps Clarkson should buy one?
 

bluebell

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why does any business shut, packup? if there was so much money, profit in it ? No its lack of profit, all the agro of running it, from it getting harder and harder to get staff, to all the rules and regulations, that cost money to meat meet? Pack up sell the site for building let someone else struggle and have all the worry?
 
I take our few pigs and sheep to his local abbatoir, C and S meats, and they do an excellent job and completely professional, but the last load I booked in in October can't be killed until the end of Feb. It's actually longer waiting for a slot than the gestation of the pigs. :eek:
Where we are near the New Forest, the nearest abbatoir for pigs is 50 miles in either direction which is a long way in an old Disco with a trailer :LOL:
 

Bald Rick

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No wonder farmers often feel so misunderstood by politicians and the public alike. Right now my farmer mates keep telling me that the only person who understands them is Jeremy Clarkson – in his Netflix series Clarkson’s Farm where he attempts to walk a mile in their shoes. Even the National Farmers’ Union has given him a prize.

Perhaps Clarkson is the one to make some progress on this issue. I can just see him in an abattoir playing up to the camera to make his point.

Just a couple of points:
It is/was an Amazon Prime series

And he did indeed go to a small abattoir with three cull sheep. He made the point that it was a painless as possible but he was visibly upset.

Personally, I would love to see local abattoirs thrive but current rules on meat inspections plus the nutters would make this difficult if not too expensive
 

kiwi pom

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Just a couple of points:
It is/was an Amazon Prime series

And he did indeed go to a small abattoir with three cull sheep. He made the point that it was a painless as possible but he was visibly upset.

Personally, I would love to see local abattoirs thrive but current rules on meat inspections plus the nutters would make this difficult if not too expensive
Does anyone actually know what it would cost and what would be involved though? Of course its difficult, most industries are, with lots of hoops and bulls**t to put up with. Does that mean it should just get chucked in the too hard basket? If you need functioning smaller abattoirs to keep the livestock industry alive but no one outside of farming is interested then you're going to have to do it yourselves.

The speed at which this thread has fallen down the page shows how little people care. Start a thread bashing the BBC or RT and it runs for ever.
No one wants to know about the dirty side of livestock farming but expect the processing side to be there when they want, how they want.
 
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Its about 30 years since the closest abattoir to me closed when I still farmed in South Lakes.
Problem then was the old slaughterman retired and nobody could be found to replace him.
Isn’t that the principal issue today with any abattoir, especially after so many Eastern European people left? Well, that and supermarket giants buying basically on price alone.
Ag in UK has struggled to get staff for as long as I’ve been alive and one of the reasons I left UK - what makes anyone think finding slaughtermen would be any less difficult?
I know I wouldn’t do the job.
 
EU rules did for all the small abattoirs, plus the whole knee jerk on exports and BSE etc. This is why big business was always so keen on EU membership: they can lobby one central government and it's easily obscured. They then push for greater regulation knowing that it will adversely affect the smaller guys disproportionately and put them out of business. Also business can move money and their assets around very easily and then exploit cheap labour in the East, borking wages in the original country.
 

Granite Farmer

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Why don't a group of farmers get together and buy these places?
They're closing because of red tape and not being profitable but if a group bought it to process their own stock it wouldn't have to make millions, just help process and add value to their produce without losing money. Its not much different than investing in a combine harvester or new milking parlour.
If farmers aren't willing to do it can you really expect someone to run them as a stand alone business.

Perhaps Clarkson should buy one?
I used to make suggestions like this when I used to go to county NFU meetings. 'We need to have control over our processing at the least' I would say for example. It would be met with replies from the farmers present, 'We'll get stung' and 'it wont work' or 'Its been done before'.

That's farming through and through in this country. Happy to spend £60k on a telehandler that will cost them money but wont put £60k towards and abattoir that might make them money.
 
I used to make suggestions like this when I used to go to county NFU meetings. 'We need to have control over our processing at the least' I would say for example. It would be met with replies from the farmers present, 'We'll get stung' and 'it wont work' or 'Its been done before'.

That's farming through and through in this country. Happy to spend £60k on a telehandler that will cost them money but wont put £60k towards and abattoir that might make them money.
I think there might be grant help available for it too. Where we are, we are not too badly off for cattle and sheep but there seem to be very few licensed pig abbatoirs about any more. How much demand there is on a small scale is debateable I suppose. When I started out 40 years ago, we just used to run a few pigs over to FMC 10 minutes away.
 

Y Fan Wen

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I think there might be grant help available for it too. Where we are, we are not too badly off for cattle and sheep but there seem to be very few licensed pig abbatoirs about any more. How much demand there is on a small scale is debateable I suppose. When I started out 40 years ago, we just used to run a few pigs over to FMC 10 minutes away.
 

Y Fan Wen

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why does any business shut, packup? if there was so much money, profit in it ? No its lack of profit, all the agro of running it, from it getting harder and harder to get staff, to all the rules and regulations, that cost money to meat meet? Pack up sell the site for building let someone else struggle and have all the worry?
Last time I went to the local s/h there were 6 vehicles parked outside. 4 were saloon cars less than 3 years old. 2 were old s/h vans obviously gas board cast offs.
Inside were 2 slaughtermen working hard enough to see the sweat on their foreheads.
Watching them were 4 people, mixed sexes wearing white coats and hats with white wellies.
They were holding clipboards and that is all they did in the 20 minutes I was there.
Within the year that s/h was no more.
 

Bald Rick

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Can't get the staff, can't get the vets.

Lack of vets is down exclusively to Eville & Jones who have the sole contract to supply vets to abattoir. They didnt have the foresight to realise that Brexit would lead to a lack of European inspector vets



According to Private Eye, E&J have been through a number of company names

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Bury the Trash

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I used to make suggestions like this when I used to go to county NFU meetings. 'We need to have control over our processing at the least' I would say for example. It would be met with replies from the farmers present, 'We'll get stung' and 'it wont work' or 'Its been done before'.

That's farming through and through in this country. Happy to spend £60k on a telehandler that will cost them money but wont put £60k towards and abattoir that might make them money.
has Mr Lang still got a small abattoir in Ashburton aamoi? he was a butcher though mind you but i do remember a time when he rebuilt /renew it , even that's a long time ago now i guess:oops:
 

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