Small Dairy Farmers Scheme.

[William Mellor]

I was trying to guesstimate the payout but cannot find data for the number of producers in England doing less than 1 million litres .
7714 producers in total in April 17
Say 2500 apply = £3400
Appreciate per litre capped at 500000 litres.

Will it not be based on a ppl basis or set amount per farm?

 

[exmoor dave]

Yep as you have quite a bit of influence locally at NFU level, so when your attending the Brexit meetings and a dairy farmer pipes up that direct subs should be scrapped you can both remind them of all the extra handouts they have had/ are getting and also ask them if they have claimed any payments from these last three schemes as a dairy farmer!

Thanks for that laugh of the day GUTH

I'm only a branch chairman.....&have only been so since xmas!

So realistically I have no more influence than you do!

Now I've told you several times on here, most meetings, particularly the various board meetings are open to the members, so rather than telling me to say something, why don't you attend the meetings your self & have your say.

If you really can't make a meeting, then the nfu is structured in such a way you can have your say, contact your branch member or board member,
Do it by email (or follow up a personal conversion or phone call with a email for clarity) so there's clear written instructions that can be read out at a meeting, copy some staff members in if you like.


I don't particularly want to get drawn in to this thread, but I've only heard one dairy farmer (in real life, not on tff) actually call for subs to end, that dairy farmer was not what you'd call a typical dairy farmer (much bigger business),
The few typical dairy farmers I do know, including one of my best mates, are defo not calling for the end of subs.

If they qualify for this scheme and it helps them, then good on them,
As a hill farmer I can hardly complain as historically we've had extra subs at times prior to bps.

 

[RobFZS]

Anyone managed to get a form yet?

EDIT- been added now

 

[Chips]

Anyone managed to get a form yet?

EDIT- been added now

Filled mine in today , pretty straight forward other than deciding to report in kilos or litres given that the Arla statements changed over to kilos part way through the milk year

 

[cornishfarmer]

Filled mine in today , pretty straight forward other than deciding to report in kilos or litres given that the Arla statements changed over to kilos part way through the milk year

Did you put Arla address, the one in Leeds?

 

[Chips]

Put UK Arla Farmers Cooperative, Arla House , etc

 

[pappuller]

like all grant and subsidy schemes, just treat it as a tax rebate cos that's all it is.

 

[peclova]

like all grant and subsidy schemes, just treat it as a tax rebate cos that's all it is.

TAX? What's that?

 

[peclova]

Pretty unusual for England to apply for something for its farmers it's usually Scotland or Wales.

Probably because the ill informed in Whitehall though no one in England would qualify

 

[farmideas]

I tried working it out and have the calculations on the Farm Ideas faceBook page https://www.facebook.com/practicalfarmideas/ I think it will be a tidy cheque for those who get in. The DEFRA announcement was made on April 21 and the closing date is May 31. And there's silage. Plus many smaller producers have their heads under their cows, and don't like forms. Or realise it's taxable.
Good luck to all who apply!!

 

[pappuller]

TAX? What's that?

the thing that keeps us in subs and grants

 

[happycows]

I tried working it out and have the calculations on the Farm Ideas faceBook page https://www.facebook.com/practicalfarmideas/ I think it will be a tidy cheque for those who get in. The DEFRA announcement was made on April 21 and the closing date is May 31. And there's silage. Plus many smaller producers have their heads under their cows, and don't like forms. Or realise it's taxable.
Good luck to all who apply!!

I personally think you have got your . In the wrong place. I estimate that it will be nearer £4/4500.

 

[Holsteinfriesian90]

I personally think you have got your . In the wrong place. I estimate that it will be nearer £4/4500.

I thought that.

 

[happycows]

£8 500,000 devided between 2000 farmers is £4250 each.

 

[Princess Pooper]

I tried working it out and have the calculations on the Farm Ideas faceBook page https://www.facebook.com/practicalfarmideas/ I think it will be a tidy cheque for those who get in. The DEFRA announcement was made on April 21 and the closing date is May 31. And there's silage. Plus many smaller producers have their heads under their cows, and don't like forms. Or realise it's taxable.
Good luck to all who apply!!

It's not exactly a difficult or time consuming form to fill in, neither is the evidence difficult to manage.

£42,000 - you must be jokingI agree with others it will be nearer 1/10 of that, probably less!!!! Yes of course it's taxable but a lot of smaller producers will not have that to worry about, especially as many will be family partnerships. And as for not hearing about it - as an eligible producer, I've heard of it in at least 5 different places now, including from our milk buyer, who of course is the only other organisation who knows what my production was for the year in question.

 

[cornishfarmer]

I think that no farmers should fill this in out of principle, to show unity with the mega dairys........,.,,..... I'm hoping no one else applies so I can retire on my £8.5m!!!!!!!!! I think that there are more smaller producers than we think I'm thinking closer to £2000 each

 

[happycows]

My Mrs has been pushing this and doing form filling........ every time another phones up I'm like bit less for me!

 

[Clay52]

One farm in all in as far as I'm concerned otherwise you bias the market. Why should smaller farms get the advantage in this situation.

Is the small farm supporting one family more worthy of the money than the big farm supporting 4 families.

 

[Sid]

All i am seeing is every consultant/land agent rubbing their hands and seeing a way to get £500 for 10 minutes work!

 

[worker]

All i am seeing is every consultant/land agent rubbing their hands and seeing a way to get £500 for 10 minutes work!

the form is so simple to complete anyone can fill it in no problem, both of my farms are just less than 1million litres so did two forms this afternoon. Not a bad return for an hour or so work